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[RFC]Knight Sabers in Fenspace Infinities - Dartz - 08-24-2011 Mostly because Jet, as a character, needs a goal in her life. Up until 2015, Jet's just sort of stumbled or been blown forward by outside forces, but what does Jet actually aim for? While none of this will actually happen in the current season, Jet does start slowly working towards establishing things needed to pull it off, learning and honing the skills she needs, and generally building up the XP required to do it right. It's a little bit rough, mind. And it takes from 7-10 years to actually get it done. ------ The Knight Sabers. Though far from the first group of hardsuited warriors to use the name in Fenspace, they are the most visible. First appearing with a bang on Genaros station in mid-2025, the Knight Sabers quickly earned notoriety for their handling of the Mia Quincy kidnapping. While the Space Patrol on-station were still negotiating with the terrorists involved, 4 women using Stingray hardsuits and motorslaves stormed the building, handling the terrorists and their cyberdroid heavys with lightning speed. All five hostages were freed, before the Sabers disappeared into the city night. The rumour is that they were paid by J.D. Quincy himself for their services. The Space Patrol immediately started a file on the organisation. What they know is that the organisation is lead by a woman who styles herself as ‘Sylia Stingray', and who prefers to communicate via puppet or Avatar, using the animated face of Sylia Stingray from the original OVA. The patrol believes that this is the same Sylia Stringray who is the registered owner of Stingray Motor Engineering, who bought the shell company off of Jet Jaguar, and turned it into full-blown custom motorcycle production company, though have never been able to conclusively link both identities. There are also photographs of Jet Jaguar and Sylia Stingray attending events together at the same time, suggesting a strong link between the two. The technology employed by the group is also known to have been originally developed by Jet, notably the hardsuit-designs and the motorslaves are advancements of models introduced by the Roughriders in 2021. Jet Jaguar has admitted providing technical assistance, claiming them to be part of ‘her fandom'. As the group are not considered outlaws, this line on inquiry was dropped. Jet could not be compelled to testify. Jet Jaguar is also not the only suspected backer of the group. The Patrol believe that they have one spacecraft under their control; a modified Roughriders-production B1-series, operating under the callsign ‘KnightWing'. The KnightWing itself appears to operate as some form of mobile AWACS for the group, while also providing some aerial fire-support and transport. The spacecraft has not been registered with any recognised ship registry, and is technically considered a pirate vessel. It has been known to fake the transponder signals of other B1-series. The Roughriders themselves have no record of the craft. It is suspected by some conspiracy theorists that a fire that destroyed two B1 space frames on the production line is the source of the mystery ship. However, the Roughriders have disproven this wild theory beyond the shadow of reasonable doubt by providing the twisted wreckage of the two half-finished space frames for investigators to prod at. Unfortunately, further investigation is not possible due to the Roughriders having recycled the two ruined space frames, citing their long-standing policy to conserve raw materials where possible. The KnightWing appears to have been equipped with a pair of launch bays and an upgraded crew module, at the expense of armaments. Scans during flypasts have suggested a conventional sensor array has been fitted, and the onboard computer systems appear to be roughly standard for the type. The identities of the 4 women in hardsuits, or whether one of them is Sylia Stingray or not, is not known. One of them is suspected of being a Senshi, based on behavioural analysis, but they all speak through voice-changing radio systems. It is suspected that they may be former OGJ or patrol members, based on observed tactics. They do demonstrate a competent application of Panzer Kunst training, but there have been any number of power-armour wearers trained by the Gruppe. Another possibility, is that they are ‘wavium AI's, biomods, cyborgs or any combination of the above The group style themselves as mercenaries, though they do not work for everyone. They are most often hired for work under-the-table, which someone may want performed but doesn't want it know it was them performing it. Such work includes recovery of stolen ‘sensitive' equipment, hostage rescue... or strikes against turnerite bases. They have also engaged in anti-Zwilnik operations. They are not a registered mercenary organisation and do not report their operational details to the Space Patrol. They cite this as a security measure to protect their member's families and their client's confidentiality. This also means they walk on a knife-edge between merely being a Space Patrol ‘file' and being declared a full blown Outlaw organisation. They have been known to provide ‘assistance' the the Patrol.... they've even been known to wave their usual fee. Payment is usually in two parts. Half on accepting the job, half on completion of the job. Sylia reserves the right to walk away if the job was not as advertised, or if the client has been in anyway untruthful with her. Or if a change in circumstances endanger the group. They promote themselves as being specifically politically neutral in affairs between factions, though they do appear to have several preferred employers. Sylia will work alongside OGJ and the Patrol, though will be wary of a trap. Sylia will not work with any Greenwood-related organisation, or for any mundane government. However, these are not absolute rules. Money talks. Sylia will never sell the technical upgrades made to her hardsuit and motorslaves. Knight Saber hardware is not for sale. They are studious about secrecy, and jealously guard their identities, and their home-base location. Their base, SilkyDoll, is known to be a main belt asteroid, thought it's location and details are unknown. There're countless possibilities, too many to be searched successfully. Their self-claimed ethos is: “To defend peace and social justice, and rid Fenspace of evil' ----- The build-up Knight Sabers began when Jet Jaguar built the first Stingray hardsuit in early 2016. Rather than just found an organisation using the name, Jet was determined to do it right, and set about building up the equipment and contacts needed to do it. Jet already had her military and combat abilities, and had learned how to train and lead an elite group of fighters. She just needed the technology, the money, and the connections to do it without getting smacked down. She also needed to learn the lessons of those around her.... Firstly, Jet created Sylia Stingray as an alter ego. Sylia Stingray was a registered resident of Marsbase Sara, complete with full identification papers, a residence, a strong income and a decent social life. Sylia Stingray is also Jet Jaguar. Sylia Stingray is the same puppet-body Jet has used since 2016, with the hair changed over. Sylia Stingray's ownership of Stingray Motor Engineering began as part tax-dodge from Jet, and part distancing herself from ‘danelaw connections. Jet publicly refused to compromise on her refusal to establish a production line for Highway Star-type motorcycles, so officially sold the shell to someone who was willing.... Sylia Stingray then negotiated licensing with AIC to use the name and designs commercially. Stingray Motors produces a range of custom motorcycles based on Mazda rotary engines, which sell in decent numbers. The company provided the initial financial backing for the Sabers, and a manufacturing front for some of their equipment. Jet signed on as a contractor with the Roughriders in 2019, working to develop her technical abilities, while simultaneously providing training support for the A-Team, and acting as a combat operative. Jet tested a number of the training techniques and tactics she planned to use with the A-Team Jet and Ford built the first motorslaves in 2021 on 37 Fides, and Jet took possession of the KnightWing in 2023, first as a pool-spacecraft,and then registering herself as it's operator. Jet bought it outright under the table, then flew it out into the main belt where it promptly disappeared. This is how Benjamin knows that Jet is behind the Sabers, making sure the transaction details disappeared into Roughriders' classified files. 6 months later, it re-appeared near Genaros, transponderless and wearing stealth-paint. Their equipment is based off of Stingray hardsuit, but adds an advanced ‘chobham' armour originally developed on Fides for the Roughriders suits, enhanced actuators and properly integrated weaponry. The motorslaves are bigger and tougher, using the same armour upgrades with better main armament, though appear lack the full AI's used on Roughrider systems. If the Sabers are ever outlawed, they will immediately disband. In practice, they operate with the tacit approval of the Space Patrol, and may have links to Great Justice. Jet's cover. What Jet's doing herself. Jet Jaguar herself, after leaving the Roughriders, acquired an exhausted asteroid mine, establishing a martial-arts training centre within the old accommodation blocks. Jet teaches blitzkrieg-school Panzer Kunst, emphasising speed and hard-hitting assaults. At any one time, there can be one or two trainees, and Jet actively bids for contracts to train powered armoured troopers of multiple factions. Also attached, is the Survival Shot combat simulation centre, based in the old mine workings Jet uses the mine workings for combat exercises, up to and including being one of the few live-fire capable training centres in Fenspace. Simulating the sort of operations Jet once commanded as leader of the Engel Gruppe, the mine is equipped with a modern sensor array, simulated (and real) point defense weapons and an old Roadrunner that's incapable of flight. Jet aims to simulate a number of other environments within the workings, and is actively trying to acquire another ship's hulk for zero-G combat. It is capable of simulating an entire mission, from the approach in through to the final attack and surrender, with TITANIC automatically co-ordinating the exercise. Anyone can hire Survival-Shot out. Fees are charged hourly, and based on damage and gimmicks employed. The training centre is available to reputable groups and teaches both offensive and defensive tactics. They also provide for corporate outings, days-out and the like, allowing them to take control of the base defenses against an attack, lead their own assault using non-lethal simulated weaponry, or even hold versus matches.between themselves. The SilkyDoll, and the hangar for the Knight Wing, are sealed off from the public area of the base. The thermal signature of SilkyDoll is masked within the signature of the training area, hiding the hardware maintenance facilities and the hangar for the KnightWing inside the remains of the old smelting plant, leading off the accessway to the main docking and loading bay. The four women who make up the Knight Sabers are employees in the training centre, often acting as OpFor wearing standard hardsuits, using production RR motoroids. It helps that training other factions, is perfect training for the Sabers themselves. A number of non-sapient attack-drones with varying capabilities can make up the rest of the opposing forces. The drones themselves are tied into the Total Information Tactical Awareness Networked Independent Control system which forms the heart of the SilkyDoll, Survival Shot and their computer systems. TITANIC is capable of learning from it's opponents and developing improvements to it's own attack, defense and operational algorithms. The more it uses the module, the better it gets at using it. The more it faces an enemy, the better it gets at defeating any enemy. The more hardware in TITANIC, the faster it runs. Whether TITANIC is capable of gaining sentience, Jet hasn't even considered. It's just a kludged expert system using a heavily modified metaverse protocol that was just sort of randomly assembled and bodged out of second-hand equipment and dumpster-recovered computer hardware mixed with a number of open-sourced expert system modules and conglomerated into something functional rather than designed to any overarching plan. But lately, there have been.... oddities.... in the system and Jet quietly admits that she really has no idea how the whole lot works anymore, or even exactly how it makes it's decisions... it just sort of does. The name was ‘obviously' intended as a joke. ---- Connecting Jet Jaguar to the Knight Sabers isn't difficult. The technology and tactics they use bear all the hallmarks of being Jet-developed, being basically current technology with added power. Jet is, at the very least, a backer of the organisation, then again she's not the only one. Jet is a known friend of Sylia, but they're exact relationship is unknown. Outside of work, Sylia Stingray is a somewhat private individual, and it's difficult to find details about her prior to 2016, when she claims to have launched to orbit. A number of SMoF's know specifically that Sylia is Jet. The identities of the individual Knight Sabers however, are known only to Jet and a select few she trusts. The Knight Sabers are generally self funding, with Mercenary missions and high-value bounty-captures generally keeping the organisation going. Stingray Motor Engineering is falling a little bit into the background, while Survival Shot and Jet's 'blitzkrieg' martial arts school are picking up the funding slack. They usually will have enough money to pay for outside hardware, and any unexpected medical bills. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - HRogge - 08-24-2011 If Stellvias push to corporate independence is followed by other large companies, the BGC Knight Sabers will fit Fenspace very well I think. A good amount of stealth materials on the inside of the hardsuits can make sure the persons are not easily identified, even in Fenspace. And it will be interesting to see how the story about TITANIC works out. - robkelk - 08-24-2011 Dartz Wrote:Mostly because Jet, as a character, needs a goal in her life. Up until 2015, Jet's just sort of stumbled or been blown forward by outside forces, but what does Jet actually aim for? Sounds good to me - this doesn't step on anybody else's toes (that I know of), and it's completely in-character for Fenspace. Dartz Wrote:Anyone can hire Survival-Shot out. Fees are charged hourly, and based on damage and gimmicks employed. The training centre is available to reputable groups and teaches both offensive and defensive tactics. They also provide for corporate outings, days-out and the like, allowing them to take control of the base defenses against an attack, lead their own assault using non-lethal simulated weaponry, or even hold versus matches.between themselves. StellviaCorp is known to have run each of its security personnel through Survival Shot exercises at least twice: once as defender and once as attacker. So far, only Security Chief Mishima has successfully completed both exercises - even Noah Scott has failed to attack the facility and "live", although he's defended it successfully three times. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Bob Schroeck - 08-24-2011 I agree, this is a good addition. It might not even be out of place in the main continuity. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - HRogge - 08-24-2011 Bob Schroeck Wrote:I agree, this is a good addition. It might not even be out of place in the main continuity.I think it IS material for the "main continuity", its just "infinities" because its for 2020-2025. - Dartz - 08-24-2011 Yeah. Plotwise, it's intended to be something Jet's working towards in the background of stories. Seeing to the Stingray identity, maybe attending the auction for her equipment I could move it forward, but the reason I set it so late is because it gives Jet time to accumulate the resources, connections and skills to actually do it. A more accelerated version might be possible that might bring it closer to the current era could be; 2016; Jet creates Sylia Stingray's ID, and Stingray Motor Engineering is sold to her. Jet begins looking for somewhere to base the group. A belter mining consortium goes bankrupt, with most of its assets going in a fire-sell. Jet attends the auction, and bids far more money than she has to hand for the non-viable mine. AC Peters wonders what Jet's up to. Jet tells her. Jet takes a contract job with the Roughriders in 2017 to pay back a good chunk of the loan on asteroid base. Jet trains the A-Team using techniques she's planning to use for the Sabers. Jet uses the A-Team to test tactics and ideas for the Knight Sabers. Ford Sierra builds the first Motoroid (As it has an autonomous AI aboard) on 37 Fides. Jet spends the next 3 years mapping and fitting out the old mine workings in her free time... calling it a 'Holiday home'. 2017; TITANIC has its genesis as a way to automatically map the beehive of disused mine tunnels using a group of Roombas, based off a modified metaverse instance, and some drone control software from Fides. TITANIC continues to expand as Jet acquires more second-hand computer hardware to add to the system, rather than buying something new. 2019; Stingray Motor Engineering funds the purchase and construction of the Knight Sabers Initial hardware. early 2020; Jets contract-term ends. Ben informs Jet that he's aware she's up to something. A fire on 37 Fides destroys a pair of B1 series aircraft. 2020: Still having to pay the loan secured on the asteroid, Jet founds a martial-arts school in the accommodation block, and establishes Survival Shot.... solely to pay the bills. Mid-2020: TITANIC expands to control of the defensive and offensive systems within the base, with responsibility for monitoring exercises. Actually named TITANIC. Mid-2020: 'Sylia' recruits the 4 Knight Sabers and starts training them. (Probably the exact same way OVA Sylia did "SYLIA STINGRAY WANTS YOU"). SME funds construction of 4 modified hardsuits, and the Motorslaves (Without an AI system). Knightwing spotted on a test flight, flees after being challenged by OGJ cruiser. SilkyDoll fitting out complete. Late 2020: After a few small clients and with the bank knocking on the door threatening to repossess all Jet's work... Survival Shot gets its first big contract training Stellvian security personel 2021: Mia Quincy kidnapped. J.D. Quincy hired Knight Sabers to rescue her. Public debut of the group. Exactly who the four Knight Sabers are, I'm not sure yet. White could be Jet's Sylia Stingray puppet. One ("Saber Pink") might be an AI. Blue may be a Senshi, and Green might be Ford Sierra. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Cobalt Greywalker - 08-24-2011 The only real problem I see with this is it fitting into Fenspace. I know in a meta sense there's always enough action to provide stories, but in universe Fenspace isn't that large. It's simple enough to handwave away, just have the population grow a bit more to stretch out the various organisations that would deal with things, allowing some gaps. Other than that, it's a fun idea. - Dartz - 08-24-2011 I've been writing my stuff assuming the population of Fenspace is growing pretty quickly, especially now that the Boskone war is over. There's 1.75 million by 2015, and probably rising like a shot. By 2020 (at the earliest,) it's going to have at least doubled if not more. Not just Fen, but nowmundanes coming up looking for paying work. Although, how fast Fenspace is growing is a matter for the convention as a whole, that's what I've been working off and it's been mentioned in a few stories I've written already. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - ECSNorway - 08-25-2011 That works for me, Dartz. I've been assuming that the population of places like Greenwood, the Crystal Cities, Mars Base Sara, and a few other major habitats, would be breaking the 100,000 each mark by 2020, easily... -- Sucrose Octanitrate. Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode. - Dartz - 08-28-2011 Buying the big house, big and empty... 2017 or so. Quote:“That's 250 thousand,” the auctioneer announced, in a dessicated voice. “Do I have 260?”________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Dartz - 08-31-2011 Darn... was hoping people would respond to that. Anyway, most Knight Saber details have been wikified, including setting the settlement on 77 Frigga, a horrible pun involving Titanics and Icebergs, The Knightwing, Sylia, and some other details edited to fit the revised timeline of Jet's life. I still need 3 other Knight Sabers... and to make them more than bit players. How Jet-designed tech differs, and I forget because I'm tired. "Nené", Likely an AI hired by Jet in the same manner. "Linna", A stardancer, third place in Jeannes Dance last year. "Priss", somebody with a reason to hate Zwilniks... AC, and Benjamin Rhodes definitely know that Jet is behind the Sabers (They supplied some of the hardware), more than that know, but anyone else depends on someone coming up with a good reason for knowing. Finally, the first story I've got planned for them involves Maico Tange chasing a scoop... That should be enough for tonight. Any thoughts? Corrections? ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Bob Schroeck - 08-31-2011 Pity this post-dates Legend of Galactic Girls -- I'd love to see Lisa Vanette interact with your Sabres. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - LynnInDenver - 08-31-2011 Dartz Wrote:Darn... was hoping people would respond to that.I have to wonder if it would be too tropey for Nene to think this was cool, and pine to join "back" up with the Knight Sabers after they become public... it might be too dangerous for her to actually join as "The Nene" in terms of people who would wonder. -- "You know how parents tell you everything's going to fine, but you know they're lying to make you feel better? Everything's going to be fine." - The Doctor - Dartz - 08-31-2011 Well, unfortunately, I didn't know Fenspace even existed back when LoGG was plotted out, and have been doing my best to stay out of it's way, and other ongoing stories. It wouldn't surprise me if Nené is at least on their side in some capacity, probably from meeting Mackie in Hacker Underspace when he first logged in to say Hi.... It's not really tropey, considering Jet is going out of her way to imitate the OVA's as much as possible, right down to the people she recruits. Danger-wise, probably not so much... though she's probably had a few too many people hunting the Sabers knock on her door going for low-hanging fruit for it to have gone beyond amusing and into annoying. Also Sylia: "I am not that silver-haired lunatic!" ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - robkelk - 08-31-2011 Dartz Wrote:"Priss", somebody with a reason to hate Zwilniks...Vivio? On second thought, maybe not - she's busy with Catgirl Industries. Dartz Wrote:Finally, the first story I've got planned for them involves Maico Tange chasing a scoop... That should be enough for tonight. Any thoughts? Corrections?Thus letting Maico be the Lisa to Jet's Sylia... I like. JFerio Wrote:I have to wonder if it would be too tropey for Nene to think this was cool, and pine to join "back" up with the Knight Sabers after they become public... it might be too dangerous for her to actually join as "The Nene" in terms of people who would wonder."So..." "Yes?" "Nene Romanova. Knight Sabers. Are they connected?" "Nah - too obvious." "Then who?" "The casino on Stellvia is giving 20:1 that an Ayanami of some sort is in one of the suits." "Speaking of obvious." "Yeah. 100:1 that they're all Ayanamis." "So who do you think's in the suit?" "Me? I think they're bots, not suits. They're all AIs." "I think you're crazy." "Okay, smart guy, who do you think is in the suits?" "Well... Has anybody ever seen Saber White and A.C. Peters in the same room at the same time?" "And you called me crazy." -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - HRogge - 08-31-2011 robkelk Wrote:Vivio?Theoretically possible... but it would be difficult to hide the tail. Quote:On second thought, maybe not - she's busy with Catgirl Industries.There might be at least some support connection between both groups, even if CI doesn't know who the Knight Sabres are. Jet can vow for them, thats good enough. The fact that some catgirls are often looking for people that test some new things and the open bounty on catgirl slavers (thats mostly paid in goods and services) provide another interesting option. And there might be some sports connection (which might be disclosed later when I published some other files first). - Dartz - 08-31-2011 Rob.... mind if I snatch that for the story? Anyway, it'll be from Maico's POV, probably a recording of her hunt for the Sabers. One of Maico's videos of the Knightwing clearly shows it with it's bay doors jammed open, and a pair of exocomps trying to fix an obvious hydraulic leak. She got the footage through dumb-luck mixed with deduction, a crazy risk and a damn good lens. Which naturally leads her to CGI's doors trying to find sales records for them.... She's already been to the Roughriders, where Ben explained exactly what happened to those two wrecks, and has hit up known hardsuit builders. That probably brings her first contact with Jet. The plot grows... ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - HRogge - 08-31-2011 Dartz Wrote:One of Maico's videos of the Knightwing clearly shows it with it's bay doors jammed open, and a pair of exocomps trying to fix an obvious hydraulic leak. She got the footage through dumb-luck mixed with deduction, a crazy risk and a damn good lens. Which naturally leads her to CGI's doors trying to find sales records for them....Hehehe... I see the potential for a lot of funny stories. - ECSNorway - 08-31-2011 Quote:"The casino on Stellvia is giving 20:1 that an Ayanami of some sort is in one of the suits.""Maybe I am. So, do you think they're Roughriders Ayanamis or Greenwood Ayanamis?" "Huh... I'd say 80/20 it's Roughriders. This is more their kind of stunt." "True. Greenwood'd use catgirls instead." -- Sucrose Octanitrate. Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode. - robkelk - 09-01-2011 Dartz Wrote:Rob.... mind if I snatch that for the story?Feel free... -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Dartz - 09-04-2011 Since we need something more than faceless suits, now for the individual Knight Sabers themselves. Quote:Hardsuit standard pattern, based on Stingray Project. Jet's only building the basic hardsuit structure in house. Anybody supplying components to the hardsuits can known if Jet is behind the Sabers if they want. Anybody supplying parts to the Pink hardsuit *will* know. Anyone in underspace who's helping Anika learn has a good reason to be suspicious, and might find out if they dig a little deeper.... I want 3 people like the original Sabers... but not too like them, if that makes sense. Any suggestions? And I'm sure I'm missing something. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - HRogge - 09-04-2011 Dartz Wrote:Jet only built the basic structure CGIARGGG... I will never get rid of this abbreviation again... Quote:supplied the Eezero core and gravity drive.Eezo core... or Element Zero core... or Mass Effect core. - robkelk - 09-04-2011 Dartz Wrote:Jet's only building the basic hardsuit structure in house. Anybody supplying components to the hardsuits can known if Jet is behind the Sabers if they want. Anybody supplying parts to the Pink hardsuit *will* know. Anyone in underspace who's helping Anika learn has a good reason to be suspicious, and might find out if they dig a little deeper....As far as I can remember, the only named group that builds custom computers in Fenspace are the folks on Prometheus Forge. (Not to say they're the only group doing this, just that they're the only group said to be doing this.) -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Black Aeronaut - 09-05-2011 Hmmm... Gina or Lebia would probably be helping Anika out with her training regimens. - LynnInDenver - 09-05-2011 I suspect Nene will also be helping out, at least in Underspace, until something is asked in the training that makes her go, "hey, wait just a minute, that sounds suspiciously like something I had to do under the heat of fire once." -- "You know how parents tell you everything's going to fine, but you know they're lying to make you feel better? Everything's going to be fine." - The Doctor |