(10-10-2021, 12:27 AM)Labster Wrote: How is Hotaru death, isn’t her portfolio “Revolution”? 

Quote:Wikipedia tells us that "In Act 27 of the live-action series, Luna gains the ability to turn into a young human girl, going by the name Luna Tsukino while able to become a Sailor Guardian known as "Sailor Luna"." We aren't going to rule that out here, but it isn't guaranteed, either.

Quote:Once the ruins of the Silver Millennium are discovered on the Moon, Luna will be one of the strongest supporters of rebuilding the city and the kingdom; it will take concerted efforts by Fujitaka, Yuuno, and every other archaeologist in the Metacontinuity to keep her from asking Washuu-chan to simply rebuild everything immediately. Luna wants the familiarity of home ... and for her, "home" was the Silver Millennium. She'll eventually get to move to the Moon, but it's as yet unknown whether everyone who she expects to come with her actually will.

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(EDIT: No, we aren't waiting for Arc 2 for Steampunk. The Counter-Earths are currently listed as being High Fantasy, Post-Apocalypse, Cyberpunk, Shiny-Happy, and Four-Color Metahumans... although the only ones we've mentioned wanting to do something with so far are High Fantasy (Lodoss/Rune Soldier Louie) and Shiny-Happy (Starfleet).)

(12-27-2021, 01:51 PM)Norgarth Wrote:

Quote:    robkelk

    (EDIT: No, we aren't waiting for Arc 2 for Steampunk. The Counter-Earths are currently listed as being High Fantasy, Post-Apocalypse, Cyberpunk, Shiny-Happy, and Four-Color Metahumans... although the only ones we've mentioned wanting to do something with so far are High Fantasy (Lodoss/Rune Soldier Louie) and Shiny-Happy (Starfleet).)

hmm, what would fit in some of those worlds...

the Four-Colour Metahumans would likely cover Marvel and DC, as well as stuff like The Tick, My Hero Academea, and the various smaller superhero comic universes, Mystery Men movie, Project A-Ko?

Post-apoc would include Mad Max, Fallout, Fist of the Northstar, possibly future Terminator, Planet of the Apes?

Cyberpunk: Bladerunner, the Tekwar novels/TV series, Johnny Mnenomic, Bubblegum Crisis

• Counter-Earth #1: High Fantasy. Slayers, Record of Lodoss War / Rune Soldier Louie, Equestria, Orario and environs
  
• Counter-Earth #2: Post-Apocalypse. Mad Max, Olympus (anime Appleseed), Mega City 1 (Judge Dread), Fist of the Northstar
  
• Counter-Earth #3: Cyberpunk. Ghost in the Shell, Battle Angel Alita / Gunnm (probably CE #3, maybe CE #2 -- Whichever has more room for it.)
  
• Counter-Earth #4: Shiny-Happy. Starfleet Command (in San Francisco), South Ataria Island, Mu/RahXephon, Atlantis (in the middle of the "Bermuda Triangle": Disney's Atlantis, Stargate Atlantis, Aquaman's Atlantis).
  
• Counter-Earth #5: Metahumans. Marvel, DC, Worm, The Incredibles, Normalman, Darkwing Duck, the Zoo Crew, etc.
  

(07-24-2021, 12:16 PM)robkelk Wrote: If we were doing seiyuu gags, we could have Mio end up in Orario during the "let's go explore the fantasy Earth" part of Arc 2... and by her voice alone be mistaken for the most powerful goddess in the city. (Her figure is close, too, but the hair colour's all wrong.)

• Grade school students attend classes on land; Hana assumes that this is because they're too young to be away from their families. The implication is that middle-school students attend classes aboard the school ships. And that means my earlier estimates as to how many students are present in the fleet were off by a factor of 1 - we have to double my estimate of three-quarters of a million to include the middle-school students. (The fact that the high school Student Council runs things implies that Ooarai doesn't have a university... but IRL the city of Ooarai doesn't have its own university, either.)
  
• Ooarai offers eight course streams at the high-school level: General, Ship (presumably "ship operation"). Intelligence, Tailoring, Nutrition, Engineering, Fisheries, and Agriculture. (Miho mentions an "Armored Forces Course", but goes on to say that Ooarai isn't Kuromorimine, implying that Kuromorimine has a cadet/ROTC program if we don't assume Miho was joking.)
  
• One of the students in the Ship course and seen on the flying bridge was Mako's classmate in middle school. This implies that students either do not specialize in middle school or can change from the general course to a specialized course when entering high school.
  
• Students in the Ship and Engineering courses do not pay tuition, but do serve an eight-hour shift keeping the ship ''Ooarai'' functional in addition to taking classes... which doesn't leave the Ship or Engineering students time to play sensha-do. However, Miho and Yukari both mention that other ships do things differently.
  
• Students in the Ship course have individual quarters, about the size of a frigate captain's quarters IRL.
  
• Agriculture and Fisheries are both carried out below decks. Fish are farmed in large tanks. Crops are grown in soil, under grow lamps; no hydroponics were shown.
  
• Water purification is also below-decks, and is shown to use the same large ponds/vats that cities on land use.
  
• Ships are modular, built from 300x300m blocks of various types. There is little coordination done regarding transit between blocks below decks; it is sometimes necessary to go topside to get from one block to the block next to it.
  
• Ooarai has a museum devoted to the history of the ship and the school. One of the exhibits is a 1/1000 scale model of the ship.
  
• Miho describes Ooarai as old, but well cared for.
  

(10-13-2021, 03:50 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote:

(10-12-2021, 06:27 AM)robkelk Wrote:

(10-12-2021, 04:31 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote: RE: Chikyū-no-Mau....  I can't find anything that gives Luna and Artemis any surnames.  Got a source?  Otherwise... Chikyū seems to be used in Japanese to refer to Earth as a proper noun, and not a generalized noun like "planet" would be.  At least, I haven't seen it used that way before.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

No source, which is why I fell back on "Mau of Earth" (and, for Diana, "Mao of the Moon of Earth") t distinguish them from Mau of other star systems.

Okay, that's what I thought.  It's just that it gets to be a real mouthful and that kinda bugs me.

Perhaps if we could do something about Mau being a dead world?

Maybe we can convince the Federation to dust off Project Genesis with the aim to revive planets rendered lifeless by Galaxia?  I mean, we do have Hotaru, but she'll need a few years to grow up all over again after each shot. 

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote: Did a bit of research on the Girls und Panzer school ships today. (Okay, I watched the GnP OAVs.)

Things that we know about Ooarai, as revealed in OAV 3: "School Ship War!"

• Grade school students attend classes on land; Hana assumes that this is because they're too young to be away from their families. The implication is that middle-school students attend classes aboard the school ships. And that means my earlier estimates as to how many students are present in the fleet were off by a factor of 1 - we have to double my estimate of three-quarters of a million to include the middle-school students. (The fact that the high school Student Council runs things implies that Ooarai doesn't have a university... but IRL the city of Ooarai doesn't have its own university, either.)
  

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Ooarai offers eight course streams at the high-school level: General, Ship (presumably "ship operation"). Intelligence, Tailoring, Nutrition, Engineering, Fisheries, and Agriculture. (Miho mentions an "Armored Forces Course", but goes on to say that Ooarai isn't Kuromorimine, implying that Kuromorimine has a cadet/ROTC program if we don't assume Miho was joking.)
  

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• One of the students in the Ship course and seen on the flying bridge was Mako's classmate in middle school. This implies that students either do not specialize in middle school or can change from the general course to a specialized course when entering high school.
  

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Students in the Ship and Engineering courses do not pay tuition, but do serve an eight-hour shift keeping the ship ''Ooarai'' functional in addition to taking classes... which doesn't leave the Ship or Engineering students time to play sensha-do. However, Miho and Yukari both mention that other ships do things differently.
  

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Students in the Ship course have individual quarters, about the size of a frigate captain's quarters IRL.
  

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Agriculture and Fisheries are both carried out below decks. Fish are farmed in large tanks. Crops are grown in soil, under grow lamps; no hydroponics were shown.
  

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Water purification is also below-decks, and is shown to use the same large ponds/vats that cities on land use.
  

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Ships are modular, built from 300x300m blocks of various types. There is little coordination done regarding transit between blocks below decks; it is sometimes necessary to go topside to get from one block to the block next to it.
  

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Ooarai has a museum devoted to the history of the ship and the school. One of the exhibits is a 1/1000 scale model of the ship.
  
• Miho describes Ooarai as old, but well cared for.
  

(01-28-2022, 09:45 PM)robkelk Wrote:

(10-13-2021, 03:50 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote:

(10-12-2021, 06:27 AM)robkelk Wrote:

(10-12-2021, 04:31 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote: RE: Chikyū-no-Mau....  I can't find anything that gives Luna and Artemis any surnames.  Got a source?  Otherwise... Chikyū seems to be used in Japanese to refer to Earth as a proper noun, and not a generalized noun like "planet" would be.  At least, I haven't seen it used that way before.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

No source, which is why I fell back on "Mau of Earth" (and, for Diana, "Mao of the Moon of Earth") t distinguish them from Mau of other star systems.

Okay, that's what I thought.  It's just that it gets to be a real mouthful and that kinda bugs me.

Perhaps if we could do something about Mau being a dead world?

Maybe we can convince the Federation to dust off Project Genesis with the aim to revive planets rendered lifeless by Galaxia?  I mean, we do have Hotaru, but she'll need a few years to grow up all over again after each shot. 

"As much as I'd like to re-create the terraforming magic that made all of the terrestrial planets in the inner Solar system habitable, there simply isn't enough raw magic available to cast all of the spells we'd need."

Sakura Matou raised her hand. "I have access to a lot of power. If I draw on the Grail fragments that my stepfather forced into my body, my minimum draw is about the same as the output of one thousand Divine Busters."

(Hayate leaned over to Fate, and whispered, "Remind me to never get her upset with me.")

Which still won't be enough - Sakura Matou might have "effectively limitless" magic for normal use, but megaprojects on the scale of making entire worlds habitable would still drain her reserves... and she doesn't have any way to replenish those reserves in a normal human lifetime.And then there's the nature and cost of magic in any TYPE/MOON setting...

Maybe let Sakura test her ideas on a smaller solar system body first, say Ceres or Vesta.

"Hey!"

Oops... Sorry, Cere-Cere and Ves-Ves. Maybe let Sakura test her ideas on a much smaller solar system body without a Star Seed first.

(01-29-2022, 03:21 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote: Did a bit of research on the Girls und Panzer school ships today. (Okay, I watched the GnP OAVs.)

Things that we know about Ooarai, as revealed in OAV 3: "School Ship War!"

• Grade school students attend classes on land; Hana assumes that this is because they're too young to be away from their families. The implication is that middle-school students attend classes aboard the school ships. And that means my earlier estimates as to how many students are present in the fleet were off by a factor of 1 - we have to double my estimate of three-quarters of a million to include the middle-school students. (The fact that the high school Student Council runs things implies that Ooarai doesn't have a university... but IRL the city of Ooarai doesn't have its own university, either.)
  

Wait.  I thought we already were including middle school students.  ??

• アンツィオ高校 / Antsio Kōkō / Anzio High School
  
• BC自由学園 / BC Jiyū Gakuen / BC Freedom Academy
  
• 知波単学園 / Chihatan Gakuen / Chihatan Academy
  
• 継続高校 / Keizoku Kōkō / Keizoku High School (a.k.a. "Jatkosota", depending on the source)
  
• 黒森峰女学園 / Kuromorimine Jogakuen / Kuromorimine Girls High School
  
• プラウダ高校 / Purauda Kōkō / Pravda High School
  
• サンダース大学付属高校 / Sandāsu Daigaku Fuzoku Kōkō / Saunders University High School
  
• 聖グロリアーナ女学院 / Sei Guroriāna Jogakuin / St. Gloriana Girls Academy
  

(01-29-2022, 03:21 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Ooarai offers eight course streams at the high-school level: General, Ship (presumably "ship operation"). Intelligence, Tailoring, Nutrition, Engineering, Fisheries, and Agriculture. (Miho mentions an "Armored Forces Course", but goes on to say that Ooarai isn't Kuromorimine, implying that Kuromorimine has a cadet/ROTC program if we don't assume Miho was joking.)
  

Honestly, it would not surprise me if at least some of the school ships had certain specialty tracks.  The Nishizumi House being what it is?  I'd be shocked if Kuromorimine didn't have a Military Cadet track.

Also, apparently whoever did the translation didn't know the right word.  What they wanted for "Ship" should be "Seamanship", as the entry level position on most ships is "Able-Bodied Seaman".

(01-29-2022, 03:21 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Agriculture and Fisheries are both carried out below decks. Fish are farmed in large tanks. Crops are grown in soil, under grow lamps; no hydroponics were shown.
  

Huh.  So everything on the weather deck is just there for the sake of recreation?

(01-29-2022, 03:21 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Ships are modular, built from 300x300m blocks of various types. There is little coordination done regarding transit between blocks below decks; it is sometimes necessary to go topside to get from one block to the block next to it.
  

I'm going to assume that this is how they contain a hull breech should one ever occur.  As deep as the drafts on these ships are, the force of the water coming in through a breech can kill a person.  So standard operating procedure would probably be to evacuate the module, let it fill up, and then repair the breech.  Once that is taken care of, they can dewater the module, but I can imagine it'd be one hell of a clean up afterwards - and probably regarded as being similar to a natural disaster.

(01-29-2022, 03:21 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote: Sheesh.  Magic doesn't have to be the answer to everything.  Like I said before, The United Federation of Planets has the perfect solution: Project Genesis.

(01-29-2022, 10:53 AM)robkelk Wrote:

(01-29-2022, 03:21 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote: Did a bit of research on the Girls und Panzer school ships today. (Okay, I watched the GnP OAVs.)

Things that we know about Ooarai, as revealed in OAV 3: "School Ship War!"

• Grade school students attend classes on land; Hana assumes that this is because they're too young to be away from their families. The implication is that middle-school students attend classes aboard the school ships. And that means my earlier estimates as to how many students are present in the fleet were off by a factor of 1 - we have to double my estimate of three-quarters of a million to include the middle-school students. (The fact that the high school Student Council runs things implies that Ooarai doesn't have a university... but IRL the city of Ooarai doesn't have its own university, either.)
  

Wait.  I thought we already were including middle school students.  ??

Well... Ooarai's full name is 県立大洗女子学園 / Kenritsu Ōarai Joshi Gakuen / Ooarai Prefectural Girls High School, so I thought middle school wasn't included.

Other schools' full names:

• アンツィオ高校 / Antsio Kōkō / Anzio High School
  
• BC自由学園 / BC Jiyū Gakuen / BC Freedom Academy
  
• 知波単学園 / Chihatan Gakuen / Chihatan Academy
  
• 継続高校 / Keizoku Kōkō / Keizoku High School (a.k.a. "Jatkosota", depending on the source)
  
• 黒森峰女学園 / Kuromorimine Jogakuen / Kuromorimine Girls High School
  
• プラウダ高校 / Purauda Kōkō / Pravda High School
  
• サンダース大学付属高校 / Sandāsu Daigaku Fuzoku Kōkō / Saunders University High School
  
• 聖グロリアーナ女学院 / Sei Guroriāna Jogakuin / St. Gloriana Girls Academy
  

There's a lot of implying that the middle-schools and universities are elsewhere. Except for Saunders.

And, now that I'm looking at that list, I see that only Ooarai, Kuromorimine, and St. Gloriana are specifically listed as being girls' schools. The gender imbalance might not be nearly as bad as I thought originally.

(01-29-2022, 10:53 AM)robkelk Wrote:

(01-29-2022, 03:21 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 08:53 PM)robkelk Wrote:

• Ooarai offers eight course streams at the high-school level: General, Ship (presumably "ship operation"). Intelligence, Tailoring, Nutrition, Engineering, Fisheries, and Agriculture. (Miho mentions an "Armored Forces Course", but goes on to say that Ooarai isn't Kuromorimine, implying that Kuromorimine has a cadet/ROTC program if we don't assume Miho was joking.)
  

Honestly, it would not surprise me if at least some of the school ships had certain specialty tracks.  The Nishizumi House being what it is?  I'd be shocked if Kuromorimine didn't have a Military Cadet track.

Also, apparently whoever did the translation didn't know the right word.  What they wanted for "Ship" should be "Seamanship", as the entry level position on most ships is "Able-Bodied Seaman".

Considering Ooarai is a prefectural high school, I wouldn't be surprised if Agriculture and Fisheries were its specialty courses. The real-world high school appears to me (if Wikipedia can be believed) to be the equivalent of an A&M in the States or a Technical College in Ontario. (But, if that's the case, how do the larger school ships stay fed?)

(01-29-2022, 10:53 AM)robkelk Wrote:

(01-29-2022, 03:21 AM)Black Aeronaut Wrote: Sheesh.  Magic doesn't have to be the answer to everything.  Like I said before, The United Federation of Planets has the perfect solution: Project Genesis.

When all you have is a (magical) hammer...

As for using the Genesis Device, after Washuu-chan debugs it, please.

Unless somebody's planning on using Genesis Torpedoes against Deathstars and Basestars... but I have to agree with Dr. McCoy here about the morality of doing something like that.

(02-01-2022, 10:26 PM)Black Aeronaut Wrote: Although if a too-clever-for-their-own-good school girl decides she wanted to use Handwavium on her tank to get a leg-up on the competition....  Yeeeeaaaaahhhh, we've all seen enough anime to know where this is going.