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RE: Politics of the Moon Kingdom - robkelk - 08-13-2026

(08-12-2026, 04:30 PM)Labster Wrote: Rei has Shinto magic even while attending Catholic school.

Methodist, actually. But for all that we see of the school in canon, there isn't much difference there.


(08-12-2026, 04:30 PM)Labster Wrote: (Free fanfic idea: All of the secondary students in Crystal Japan attend one normal-sized boarding school, and get sorted into houses based on which sailor senshi they like the best.)

So, Jupiter's house is Gryffindor, Mercury's is Ravenclaw, Mars' is Hufflepuff, and... (er... no, wait, leadership and resourcefulness are core values here, just be careful of focus shift...) Venus' is Slytherin. <g> (Or, if you go by elemental affinities listed in supplementary materials, Mars' is Gryffindor, Venus' is Ravenclaw, Jupiter's is Hufflepuff, and Mercury's is Slytherin. Doing these mappings is a mug's game... but it's a mug's game that we chose to play when we made our story a massive crossover.)

RE: Politics of the Moon Kingdom - Labster - 08-13-2026

(08-13-2026, 08:41 AM)robkelk Wrote:
(08-12-2026, 04:30 PM)Labster Wrote: Rei has Shinto magic even while attending Catholic school.

Methodist, actually. But for all that we see of the school in canon, there isn't much difference there.

I could have sworn TA Academy stood for Thomas Aquinas.  Oh well.

(08-13-2026, 08:41 AM)robkelk Wrote:
(08-12-2026, 04:30 PM)Labster Wrote: (Free fanfic idea: All of the secondary students in Crystal Japan attend one normal-sized boarding school, and get sorted into houses based on which sailor senshi they like the best.)

So, Jupiter's house is Gryffindor, Mercury's is Ravenclaw, Mars' is Hufflepuff, and... (er... no, wait, leadership and resourcefulness are core values here, just be careful of focus shift...) Venus' is Slytherin. <g> (Or, if you go by elemental affinities listed in supplementary materials, Mars' is Gryffindor, Venus' is Ravenclaw, Jupiter's is Hufflepuff, and Mercury's is Slytherin. Doing these mappings is a mug's game... but it's a mug's game that we chose to play when we made our story a massive crossover.)

That mapping doesn't work very well, because I don't think JKR used the same philosophical basis.  It's closer to the four temperaments, but it's not quite that either.  Ravens are of course smart and air-aligned, but otherwise seem phlegmatic.  I've never been able to make the Hogwarts houses quite fit.  And by never, well, I've had this text file around for a long time:


source          1               2               3               4             5
Shinto      aramitama       nigimitama      sakimitama      kushimitama     naohi
"ichirei   荒御霊・荒御魂    和御霊・和御魂      幸御魂         奇御霊・奇御魂     霊魂
 shikon"    rude            harmonious      happy           wondrous        pure spirit
            turbulent       tranquil        favorable       miraculous

Inuyasha    Inuyasha        Sango          Miroku          Shippo          Kagome
            courage         strength       wisdom          joy             (miko)

Utena
 Distort    Kyouichi        Touga           Juri            Miki            Anthy
                |---------------|             |--------------|                X
 Desire     Touga           Kyouichi        Miki            Juri            Utena
 Duels      conviction      amitié          raison          amour           soi/choix
            red             green           blue            orange          pink
            kakumei no chi  eien no mono    kagayaki        kiseki
            revol. power    eternal thing   shining thing   miracle


Sailormoon  Hino Rei        Kino Makoto     Mizuno Ami      Aino Minako     Tsukino Usagi
            red             green           blue            orange          pink
            fire            earth           water           light, metal    sacred
            passion         courage         exam/wisdom     beauty          justice
           
            Tenou Haruka    Kaioh Michiru   Tomoe Hotaru    Meioh Setuna    ^
            flight          embrace         ruin/birth      revolution

            VesVes          JunJun          PallaPalla      CereCere        Tsukino Chibiusa
           
           
Potter      Gryffindor      Hufflepuff      Ravenclaw       Slytherin
 Mascot     fire            earth           air             water
 Colour     red             yellow          blue (black)    green

Twin Peaks  spiritual       physical        mental          emotional       (wellness)
(Log Lady)

Temperament Choleric        Melancholic     Phlematic       Sanguine
            fire            earth           water           air
Solid       d4              d6              d20             d8              d12
           
Alchemy     fire            earth           water           air             quintessence/aether
            1-nigredo       2-albedo        3-citrinias     4-rubedo        philosopher's stone
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_opus_%28alchemy%29
           
5 Man Band  Lancer          Tough Guy       Smart Guy       Chick           Leader

Koine Greek éros            agápe           philía          storgé          *
 via CSL    physical        spiritual       mental          affection
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love

UF Utena    Corwin          Kyouichi        Miki            Juri            Utena
->
Art of Nois Amanda Dessler  Moose           Devlin Carter   Azalynn         Kaitlyn Hutchins


So the Japanese sources fit this model very well, as do the anime-inspired sources.  The western sources don't so much.  They tend to think of fire/water and earth/air being the opposing pairings, where this tends to generate fire/earth and air/water.  The Utena sources are weird because they are out of balance with themselves!  If it isn't a model of a soul, it's still a trope.