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- Cobalt Greywalker - 06-05-2011 Please note I did not say Absolute Land Speed Record (although that'd be fun as well), I said Absolute Speed Record. As in go out past the Limit, set up a 1 Light Hour course, and try and get past 511.734c (IIRC).* Also, RE: monomolecular constructs. You'd need full nanotech assembly for that, and as far as I remember only Stellvia, Prometheus Forge and possibly the Soviets are anywhere close to developing it. Doing a single monomolecular construct (i.e. blades, mono-wire, transparent carbon panels) is possible with wavetech, but building the several hundred individual waved machines for the parts needed is too time and space consuming for any realistic attempt. Even in Fenspace. *The math says that you would cover 1 Light Hour in 7.2 seconds at 500c. This seems reasonable to me given that at Mach 1 the measured mile would take 4.69 seconds. - KJ - 06-05-2011 I don't bloody check this forum enough, as I keep being Blocked (writer's, not ISP) and it's a bit frustrating. Characters and stories, locked in my stupid head. Anyway! Having been around for brainstorming of stuff, and running numbers and general sanity checking (ha!) on IRC... the final readthrough is even better than I was being led to believe from the chunks I'd seen in advance. It feels like World's Fastest Indian, or Song of the Sausage Creature generally... which is a good thing; as someone who does such as a hobby, it well and truly feels like going way too fast to be safe. Instead of gushing for several sentences, I'm going to put it at "bloody well done" and cut myself off there. ![]() On the technical side... about all of it's at least technically plausible. The power output is pretty hairy in terms of raw numbers, but not really breaking new ground in rotary engine stuff. And the speeds pretty much make sense too. Oh, and the noise levels? They're about right too. Heh heh heh... - Dartz - 06-05-2011 Thanks ![]() Monomolecular metals, even fully ceramic engines... they're all beyond Jet and Ford's budget or time. They have to do a lot with a little. It's also their advantage... there's a lot of knowledge and experience out there tuning Mazda 13b engines which they can tap into... and plenty of tuning companies offering the features mentioned. (Many of which I found on google). I remember reading Song of the Sausage Creature when it was reprinted in a magazine after Hunter S. Thompson died,. Take note of the names of the three journalists in the story ![]() Quote:Please note I did not say Absolute Land Speed Record (although that'd be fun as well), I said Absolute Speed Record. That... that sounds like fun. Jet would definitely be up for it, duty schedules accommodating. Edit: Now wiki'd. I stripped Jets mailing parts to the talk page. And with Picture, a coloured version of a drawing from the BClub... a bit like the Jet images. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Black Aeronaut - 06-06-2011 *looks at picture of Highway Star* ..... OH HELL YEAH!!! You know what? Imagine the Lunatic Fringe and the Highway Star lined up at the 'drag strip'... just imagining the sound they would be making gives me this imagery of Thor hanging out in the audience with a wild and manic grin. *Deafening banshee scream from LF* *Gut blasting thrum from HS* Thor: "I LIKE THIS SPORT! AGAIN!" Skuld will probably be there too, on principal alone. ![]() And afterwards... Skuld: "Father's Name! You guys have gotta let me have a matched set! They're perfect for Kei-kun and Onee-san's wedding present!" Ben: "Didn't you want a Blackbird when you passed through last time? Get us invited and I'll see if one of the girls in my hangar takes a fancy to ya." In the Blackbird hangar at 36 Atalante, you don't pick the plane - the plane picks YOU. ![]() ETA: RE: Absolute Speed Record Mayonaka will not permit this to go unchallenged. ![]() RE: Nanofacs Dunno, IBM in real life is pretty close - they already have a machine that will let them manipulate an individual atom. I don't think nanofacs, even hardtech ones made with wavetech, are too far down the road. - Dartz - 06-06-2011 The Highway Star does not 'thrum', it does This. Note the man running for cover at 0:15. It rips the very air apart with a 'beat that' challenge laid at the very feet of the Thunder God to which he'll answer deafly, 'WHAT?'. A roaring, whistling gas turbine, and a blazing, ripping, machinegunning rotary. Oh yeah.... people'd pay to see that. And that'll probably pay to keep the Star running, and to keep tweaking it slightly before each event so that things are competitive (Such as better coatings on the rotor and chamber to reduce friction and heat loss to coolant, or better radiators and cooling system upgrades). On the absolute record. I can see this becoming something of a friendly rivalry between all involved, trading fractions of C with each run. On the subject of Skuld... I'm surprised nobody thought to phone Richard Dawkins while she was travelling through Fenspace. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - HRogge - 06-06-2011 blackaeronaut Wrote:RE: NanofacsI think the availability of a Nanofac would depend on its speed... building something on the molecular level could be HORRIBLE slow, but the slow machines would be quite easier to build. - robkelk - 06-07-2011 Dartz Wrote:On the subject of Skuld... I'm surprised nobody thought to phone Richard Dawkins while she was travelling through Fenspace.I have two chapters and an epilogue left to write in Legend of Galactic Girls. I might be able to squeeze in a call to Oxford... or the Vatican. However, I'd prefer to not tip over that apple-cart, if only because nobody's mentioned anything about such a call in the stories set after LoGG. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - robkelk - 06-07-2011 blackaeronaut Wrote:RE: Nanofacs HRogge Wrote:I think the availability of a Nanofac would depend on its speed... building something on the molecular level could be HORRIBLE slow, but the slow machines would be quite easier to build.Nanotech is one of the things that Noah removed from the Whole Fenspace Catalog before releasing it, so that StellviaCorp could use it as a competitive advantage and a trade secret... so the know-how is in Fenspace but not commonly available. As for local research producing a nanofac "not too far down the road," I'll point out that we've been "fifteen years away" from working AI for the last fifty years now... -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Dartz - 06-07-2011 robkelk Wrote:I have two chapters and an epilogue left to write in Legend of Galactic Girls. I might be able to squeeze in a call to Oxford... or the Vatican. However, I'd prefer to not tip over that apple-cart, if only because nobody's mentioned anything about such a call in the stories set after LoGG. Tongue firmly in cheek. I'm sure someone on meeting Skuld has made the snark "Shit, does anyone remember Richard Dawkins' phone number?" Now back to Shadowrunning. The 'better' story. I like these two stories... I think I've got some nice character development stuff going for Jet and Ford. I'm sort of treating Jet like an RPG character whos first gaming session was at Serenitycon. Everything before that's background and character creation. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - KJ - 06-07-2011 Dartz Wrote:... It rips the very air apart with a 'beat that' challenge laid at the very feet of the Thunder God to which he'll answer deafly, 'WHAT?'.As someone who races RX-7s, that's the best description of rotary exhaust notes I've yet heard. ![]() Quick edit. For anyone who wants the full effect, you really need to be able to have the volume cranked up to where each engine pulse is resonating in your chest cavity at idle, and your ears are ringing even with earplugs in at full throttle. - Black Aeronaut - 06-07-2011 robkelk Wrote:As for local research producing a nanofac "not too far down the road," I'll point out that we've been "fifteen years away" from working AI for the last fifty years now...Eh, just needs that last little push that the Wave is only too happy to apply. - HRogge - 06-07-2011 blackaeronaut Wrote:Exactly what I was thinking...robkelk Wrote:As for local research producing a nanofac "not too far down the road," I'll point out that we've been "fifteen years away" from working AI for the last fifty years now...Eh, just needs that last little push that the Wave is only too happy to apply. building some waved "nanofac" that builds quirky things which tend to be quirky (because they contain handwavium) will be (most likely) the "easy" solution... building a waved one that build things without handwavium contamination is harder (see Blood Oranges in the wiki ^^). building a hardtech one is... lets say a few decades away for most Fen. - Dartz - 06-07-2011 If the plot absolutely needs nano-scale fabrication, then that's what handwavium's for. Having cool tech for the sake of having tends to be a bit...like a Bad Star Trek episode . I doubt this story would've been as interesting if the Highway Star had more cool gizmos fitted to it, like a fully ceramic engine or something. Technology isn't the plot in itself, it just enables the plot.... even if that's as simple as allowing Jet to hug Ford proper tightly for the first time. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Star Ranger4 - 06-08-2011 Exactly the point that a lot of people forget... in sci fi the tech isnt as important as what it allows people to do or not do. The real purpose of the Goo is to enable stories through enabling people to do what they want. In this respect the First Fen can be thought of as the ultimate Author Avatar (okay okay, Mary Sue) in and of its not his personal story, but the stories he enables. Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- NO QUARTER!!! -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children - Dartz - 06-10-2011 Ben -v- Jet. Just messing around, with Lebia Maverick starting the race. Assuming the 2015 convention is held at Genaros because, well, there hasn't be a con at the L5 stations yet...that's about the only place in Fenspace there hasn't been a con and it's got plenty of space for a drag race. And there's something cool about racing motorcycles under neon lights, along with being an excellent place for a photoshoot. Besides, would there be anywhere else Fenspace that'd let them run and have the space for it? Quote:Day 2 of the convention. Afternoon. Not that anyone could tell. The Genaros Weather System kept things in a perpetual twilight. Clouds fluoresced orange with the sickly overspill of a million neon advertisments. The loglo illuminated all.________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Black Aeronaut - 06-10-2011 Small nitpick: Ben's bike has two turbines, not one. (One turbine for each shaft - part of why it's so frickin' wide.) It's part of why the Tron Lightcycle design appealed to me. ![]() Other than that... This looks great! Especially love how you cast the way others look at what is really a friendly rivalry between Ben and Jet. Oh, and Gina would probably go and and give Jet a kiss, too, and give Ford a wink while she's at it. For all her bluster she's really every bit as mischievous as Ben is (recall all the hell Asuka puts Shinji through). ![]() ETA: Think that Blackstone and the rest of the World Watch One crew would be there to officiate? The idea of Blackstone playing sets both before and after sounds like fun. - HRogge - 06-11-2011 It is a really nice addition to the first story... I especially liked the fact that it does NOT decide how the race between Ben and Jet has ended... it creates the stage and background for a new category of racing in Fenspace without directly saying X is better than Y. ![]() - robkelk - 06-11-2011 blackaeronaut Wrote:ETA: Think that Blackstone and the rest of the World Watch One crew would be there to officiate? The idea of Blackstone playing sets both before and after sounds like fun.Performing before and after the race? Two essential songs, then - one by Purple and one by Rider. But which gets played before the race, and which after? (The musical styles are too different to play them both in the same set...) -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - robkelk - 06-11-2011 Dartz Wrote:Assuming the 2015 convention is held at Genaros because, well, there hasn't be a con at the L5 stations yet...that's about the only place in Fenspace there hasn't been a con and it's got plenty of space for a drag race.Make it so... (goes and edits the FenWiki) -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Dartz - 06-11-2011 Made those few little changes. If the WW1 crew are playing sets, maybe there's more going on around the race as a whole. Edit: Hmmm... Deep Purple first I guess. Decided by Random Coin toss because that's fairest to both and I actually did the toss. Added that to the story. I can't remember the bandname. I know it's somewhere. I'm sure someone'll inform me. And sorry for the constant edits ![]() ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - robkelk - 06-11-2011 At this point in Fenspace history, they're The Hong Kong Cavaliers. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Dartz - 06-11-2011 Fixed it. Thanks! ![]() It was on the tip of my tongue, I just couldn't remember it. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? |