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- robkelk - 01-19-2012 JFerio Wrote:"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."robkelk Wrote:Surprisingly, one of the largest collections of derivative works out there - fanfiction.net - is not dark. They've got quite a lot to lose if SOPA/PIPA passes; one would think they'd care...It could also be that they're trying to avoid raising their profile in case SOPA does actually pass and get signed. Or they're trying to avoid the fallout in forums about taking a stand either way. Different context, I know... but the principle still applies. JFerio Wrote:As for fallout in forums, one thing that I've been doing over at DAZ3D is taking note of the Published Artists there in the forum that have actually come down in full favor of SOPA passing. Only one so far, but that one has basically ensured I won't buy his products anytime soon...Which one? Perhaps we could organize a boycott... (Email me if you'd prefer not to post the name: robkelk -atsign- gmail -period- com) -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - CattyNebulart - 01-19-2012 I liked what the daily WTF ( http://thedailywtf.com/ ) did, they did a whiteout in "support" of sopa. I'll reproduce the full text here in case people are curious and if they take it down, but you should check out there version it's prettyier and has links. Quote:Support The Daily WTF in Supporting the Support SOPA MovementE: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?" B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell." - LynnInDenver - 01-19-2012 robkelk Wrote:"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."There is that. Right now, I'm assuming it means a site is neutral, or against but doesn't want to deal with the hate mail right at the moment, if it doesn't say. Otherwise, I might as well call my internet provider and cancel my service right now. (Actually, I should anyway, it's Comcast. I only went with them when I moved to my current place because I live on top of a radio station, and had trouble with the dialup modem, and might have similar issues with DSL.) Quote:robkelk wrote:Which one? Perhaps we could organize a boycott...No, I'll go ahead and say it publicly. After all, he publicly declared it on the DAZ3D forum. His name is IgnisSerpentus, and he's got something like 25 products there right now. http://www.daz3d.com/i/sh...tistlist/-/?artist=32385 Do not buy his work. He advocates locking the internet down to little more than another big media pipeline because he's seen his work all over the various torrent sites. -- "You know how parents tell you everything's going to fine, but you know they're lying to make you feel better? Everything's going to be fine." - The Doctor - robkelk - 01-19-2012 So I saw when I went to look at the thread more closely. His stuff is now off my wishlist. On the flip side, at least four artists have come down firmly against SOPA/PIPA:
(And, while he hasn't come out and said so, http://www.schells.ca/]Chris Schell appears to be anti-SOPA/PIPA as well.) Let's support them, shall we? -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - LynnInDenver - 01-19-2012 Names noted and bookmarked. I get paid tomorrow, and I can contemplate what to buy. -- "You know how parents tell you everything's going to fine, but you know they're lying to make you feel better? Everything's going to be fine." - The Doctor - Black Aeronaut - 01-19-2012 ... Do render-products such as those usually go for that much? I can understand that it's a niche market and that building takes time, patience, and skill... I wouldn't charge that much for something that could probably just be torrented. It just doesn't make sense to me. - robkelk - 01-19-2012 Prices usually range from $5 to $25, with more complex models tending toward the high end. There are outliers on both ends of the scale. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - LynnInDenver - 01-19-2012 My friend Murdock wrote this comic. Yes, technically it's a day late, but it's relevant. http://www.zingcomic.com/2012/01/19/plan-b/ -- "You know how parents tell you everything's going to fine, but you know they're lying to make you feel better? Everything's going to be fine." - The Doctor Legislators run for the exits on SOPA/PIPA after protests - Logan Darklighter - 01-19-2012 Original source from Hot Air, Posted at 11:20 AM on January 19, 2012 By Ed Morrissey Quote:In darkness, there is apparently much sunlight. As a number of Internet sites either went dark or protested the proposed anti-piracy bills circulating in Congress, a number of sponsors ran for cover, reports The Hill: Fight's not over though. Not by a long shot. Keep a sharp eye out for the sneaky bastards to try passing it as an end-of-session thing. Or as part of a different, seemingly unrelated bill as an add-on rider. -Logan ------------------- "Dan, I'm not a Republic serial villain. Do you honestly think I'd explain my masterstroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago." Adrian Veidt, "Watchmen" -------------------- - Bob Schroeck - 01-19-2012 Oh, I forgot to mention earlier -- the financial news I listen to on CBS radio during my ride to work was talking about the results of yesterday's action, and apparently the groundswell of opposition took the big media companies by surprise, bigtime; there was even a quote from an (unnamed) representative of one company complaining that the social network sites and other new media outfits can reach many more people much much faster than traditional media can. Well, yes, they're dinosaurs, it's no wonder they're slower and dumber -- and less friendly -- than the mammals that are replacing them. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - Black Aeronaut - 01-19-2012 JFerio Wrote:My friend Murdock wrote this comic. Yes, technically it's a day late, but it's relevant.One thing I find particularly telling is how one of the people react to the idea of turning to organized crime: "Hot damn! We'll at least get due process if we're caught!" - Bob Schroeck - 01-20-2012 Late word on the radio news: both bills are dead in the water. Sen. Patrick Leahy, PIPA's author, is spitting nails about it, and because just about every co-sponsor on both bills bailed on them and disavowed their previous support. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... ColumnArea]CBS News item here. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - LynnInDenver - 01-20-2012 We still need to keep up the pressure. I'm planning on voting for the opponents of whoever supported either bill... and the ones who changed from Support to Oppose will only get voted for if their opponent is worse on other pet issues I might have. -- "You know how parents tell you everything's going to fine, but you know they're lying to make you feel better? Everything's going to be fine." - The Doctor - Foxboy - 01-21-2012 Leahy's in tight with Hollywood. He was in The Dark Knight as the senator whose campaign dinner the Joker was Terrorizing. ''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.'' -- James Nicoll - Morganite - 01-21-2012 JFerio Wrote:We still need to keep up the pressure. I'm planning on voting for the opponents of whoever supported either bill... and the ones who changed from Support to Oppose will only get voted for if their opponent is worse on other pet issues I might have. I suppose there's a list of those somewhere? I haven't heard anything about how the ones local to me were on it. -Morgan. - robkelk - 01-21-2012 Bob Schroeck Wrote:Late word on the radio news: both bills are dead in the water.However, "dead in the water" is not the same as "scuttled and sunk"... Maintain vigilance! -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Bob Schroeck - 01-22-2012 True enough. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - LynnInDenver - 01-22-2012 A little too late for me. http://www.techdirt.com/a...pulls-sopa-support.shtml Do remember. Stay vigilant. Vote the supporters out of office. And expect, as their model degrades further, the MPAA and RIAA will try harder and harder to get these things in place to force the internet out of competing with them as a content delivery engine. -- "You know how parents tell you everything's going to fine, but you know they're lying to make you feel better? Everything's going to be fine." - The Doctor - Morganite - 01-22-2012 Morganni Wrote:I suppose there's a list of those somewhere? I haven't heard anything about how the ones local to me were on it. Answering own question. http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/states Looks like one of my local guys was at one point a co-sponsor for PIPA (along with 38 or 39 other people), but he also spoke out about there being problems with the bill before the blackout. So we'll see. -Morgan. - Dartz - 01-25-2012 Meanwhile, in Paddyland ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Foxboy - 01-27-2012 Let's not forget about the end-run the lobbyists are trying to finagle: Just like what they did with copyright law in 1978 in the first place, they're trying to dodge common sense and public outcry via international diplomacy. Seems the lobbyists are meeting in Hollywood soon to work out international copyright treaties to shove down our throats as faits-accompli. ''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.'' -- James Nicoll - Black Aeronaut - 01-27-2012 In case no one's noticed, Wil Wheaton unloaded on Chris Dodd on his Tumblr when Dodd started publicly threatening the politicians that washed their hands of SOPA and PIPA. Details here: http://wilwheaton.tumblr....hreatens-politicians-who |