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RE: Net Neutrality, Internet access, Media Consolidation - Labster - 04-11-2019
We have those coalitions in the U.S., they're just internal to the political parties. If you vote mostly on a single issue, then life is good, find the correct party. However, if you want guns and gay marriage to be equally legal, too bad, there's no party for you.
Functionally the US Democratic Party is a coalition between environmentalists, ethnic activists, health care, labor unions, Hollywood, and of course the gay agenda. Republicans are an alliance of low-tax advocates, farmers, authoritarians, industry and finance, and gun lovers. Generally the compromise part happens as a different base of voters migrates to another party, like the Southern Strategy.
RE: Net Neutrality, Internet access, Media Consolidation - Rajvik - 04-11-2019
Arguably the deems have lost the Union Worker's vote yet maintain the Union Administrators vote, funny that.
That said, I feel you are wrong about the authoritarians .
RE: Net Neutrality, Internet access, Media Consolidation - Labster - 04-11-2019
It's okay to feel that I'm wrong about authoritarians, but I'm definitely right about it. Republicans are authoritarian about immigration, criminal justice, declaring the media the enemy of the state, voter suppression, and patronage as a path to power.
What's a deem, by the way?
RE: Net Neutrality, Internet access, Media Consolidation - classicdrogn - 04-11-2019
A typo for "dems" I susspect.
RE: Net Neutrality, Internet access, Media Consolidation - robkelk - 04-12-2019
(04-11-2019, 09:26 PM)Labster Wrote: What's a deem, by the way?
According to Merriam-Webster:
Quote:: to come to think or judge
: consider
// deemed it wise to go slow
// those whom she deemed worthy
// a movie deemed appropriate for all ages
RE: Net Neutrality, Internet access, Media Consolidation - Rajvik - 04-12-2019
Drogn was correct, it was an auto corrupt.
You Labster have the right to feel however you wish, your feelings are not facts. Requiring people to obey the existing law, whether you agree with it or not is not being authoritarian, it is enforcing the agreements we have already come to.
News media are there to report facts, when they start reporting their opinions as fact they become at best opinion editors and at worst liars, and when they don't even have the decency to admit, retract and apologize for their fuck ups, then they should accept how they are seen.
It is not voter suppression to ensure that the people who are casting votes are supposed to be casting votes, and I say that as a convicted felon.
Patronage will always be a path to power, it is the results that matter. There will always be that game being played, you can't stop it, you can only try to ensure that it is the most qualified that get the patronage.
RE: Net Neutrality, Internet access, Media Consolidation - hazard - 04-13-2019
Forming the law in ways that result in the only options being 'obey or suffer' while obedience is to your benefit and your benefit only does tend to be rather authoritarian.
One should inform Fox News of the duties of news media and the necessity and consequences of failing to uphold them.
It is voter suppression when this results in people being made more difficult if not impossible to cast votes on any grounds other than the likelihood of subversion of the democratic system. Which, historically, is exactly what any and all attempts to make voting more difficult have been doing in the USA.
The problem with patronage is that very often the overriding qualification for getting a patron is loyalty to the patron and loyalty to the patron only. Any other qualification is secondary at best and required only because otherwise the patron themselves is going to suffer.
RE: Net Neutrality, Internet access, Media Consolidation - SilverFang01 - 04-16-2019
Couldn’t happen to a nicer company:
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https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-15-months-of-fresh-hell/