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- robkelk - 10-27-2016
CBC: AI predicts Hillary winning with a 3% margin, as opposed to the 6% margin most of the pollsters are giving her.
This was on the radio here this morning (because it's a local company). The interviewee mentioned that the AI is looking at what people are posting on social media, and that's believed to be a more accurate indicator than asking people who they support. That makes sense to me: who's going to give a politically-incorrect answer to a stranger when asked something, and who's going to share what they really believe on their own Twitter/Facebook/etc. accounts?
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."
- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
- Bob Schroeck - 10-27-2016
Interesting. My only concern with that is an article I've seen a couple of times over the past few days asserting that a third of all pro-Trump posts on social media are actually the work of bots. I'll have to look for it later tonight to see just how reliable it is.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
- ordnance11 - 10-28-2016
Quote:robkelk wrote:Well, Obama was leading 1% in the polls on election day and ended up getting 332 electoral votes. The question at this point is whether or not HRC would win but by what margin? If you look at what Trump's campaign is doing, it's not actions of a campaign that think it has a chance of winning. Matter of fact, I suspect they're gunning for a low voter turnout. Aka voter suppression.
CBC: AI predicts Hillary winning with a 3% margin, as opposed to the 6% margin most of the pollsters are giving her.
This was on the radio here this morning (because it's a local company). The interviewee mentioned that the AI is looking at what people are posting on social media, and that's believed to be a more accurate indicator than asking people who they support. That makes sense to me: who's going to give a politically-incorrect answer to a stranger when asked something, and who's going to share what they really believe on their own Twitter/Facebook/etc. accounts?
Trump campaign's voter supression program
Well, early voting starts tomorrow in my neighborhood.
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- ordnance11 - 10-28-2016
Quote:robkelk wrote:Well, Obama was 1% ahead of Romney in the polls and he had 332 electoral votes in the end. *Ahhh...Karl Rove's breakdown* What has me more worried is Trump's voter suppression operations.
CBC: AI predicts Hillary winning with a 3% margin, as opposed to the 6% margin most of the pollsters are giving her.
This was on the radio here this morning (because it's a local company). The interviewee mentioned that the AI is looking at what people are posting on social media, and that's believed to be a more accurate indicator than asking people who they support. That makes sense to me: who's going to give a politically-incorrect answer to a stranger when asked something, and who's going to share what they really believe on their own Twitter/Facebook/etc. accounts?
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t ... on-2016-10
Edit: oops, double post.
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- DHBirr - 10-28-2016
Suppression? Who needs to suppress the voters? There won't be anyone voting, if he has his way.
"...just cancel the election and give it to Trump," he said. Ye gods.
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"The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that this was some killer weed."
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Big Brother is watching you. And damn, you are so bloody BORING.
- Bob Schroeck - 10-28-2016
... and here I was joking when I suggested he would sue everyone who didn't vote for him. I wasn't extreme enough.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
- DHBirr - 10-28-2016
This is from back in February, but only came to my attention yesterday. It seems a number of Germans have long memories (as they should)....
![[Image: Trump%20vs%20Liberty_zpsyxoa89gd.jpg]](http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y382/DHBirr/Trump%20vs%20Liberty_zpsyxoa89gd.jpg)
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Big Brother is watching you. And damn, you are so bloody BORING.
- Bob Schroeck - 10-29-2016
http://newsthump.com/2016/10/27/destruc ... horcruxes/]Destruction of Walk Of Fame star leaves Donald Trump down to his last six Horcruxes
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
- Labster - 10-29-2016
Well, the FBI decided to get all J. Edgar Hoover and reopen the investigation into Hillary's emails, because 2 weeks before the election sounds great. Apparently there were some more emails on Huma Abedin's computer. So this is what we've come to: I have a choice between the candidate who keeps her classified emails one folder over from Rep. Weiner's dick pics, or the guy who thinks they should cancel the election and give the presidency to him.
Actually, my ballot was already mailed, so not my choice any more. Huzzah! It was quite the struggle, 25 initiatives this time. Though in SF I guess they're up to 40 this year.
And Reddit asked a question: Donald Trump's Hollywood star was one horcrux, what are Trump's other 6 horcruxes?
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- ordnance11 - 10-29-2016
Going to early voting today. Who to choose? The candidate with Nixonian tendencies or the proto-facist?....eh no brainer.
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- robkelk - 10-29-2016
We'll have a couple of three-bedroom apartments open in a couple of weeks in the building where I live. Nice and close to the Ottawa airport, but not on a flight path...
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."
- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
- Pyeknu - 10-29-2016
Quote:vorticity wrote:LOL!
And Reddit asked a question: Donald Trump's Hollywood star was one horcrux, what are Trump's other 6 horcruxes?
- DHBirr - 10-29-2016
We have a confirmed case of voter fraud in the early voting! By a Trumpite....
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Big Brother is watching you. And damn, you are so bloody BORING.
- Labster - 10-30-2016
If you missed it on that reddit thread -- I know I did the first time, Luna LoveWell wrote a lovely wizard!Obama fic on the idea of Trump's horcruxes.
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- ordnance11 - 11-01-2016
Quote:robkelk wrote:Rob, does it mean giving up my cushy Federal job to move over there? On one hand a Trump presidency means D.C. is going to be ground zero to a (or several) nuke warheads. OTOH, maybe Trump gets impeached in the first year of his presidency. Decisions, decisions.
We'll have a couple of three-bedroom apartments open in a couple of weeks in the building where I live. Nice and close to the Ottawa airport, but not on a flight path...
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- robkelk - 11-01-2016
ordnance11 Wrote:If you can swing a transfer to the embassy here, you can have the best of both worlds!Quote:robkelk wrote:We'll have a couple of three-bedroom apartments open in a couple of weeks in the building where I live. Nice and close to the Ottawa airport, but not on a flight path...Rob, does it mean giving up my cushy Federal job to move over there? On one hand a Trump presidency means D.C. is going to be ground zero to a (or several) nuke warheads. OTOH, maybe Trump gets impeached in the first year of his presidency. Decisions, decisions.
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."
- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
- ordnance11 - 11-01-2016
Quote:robkelk wrote:Nope, my job position at State would mean staying at Foggy Bottom.Quote:ordnance11 wrote:If you can swing a transfer to the embassy here, you can have the best of both worlds!Quote:robkelk wrote:We'll have a couple of three-bedroom apartments open in a couple of weeks in the building where I live. Nice and close to the Ottawa airport, but not on a flight path...Rob, does it mean giving up my cushy Federal job to move over there? On one hand a Trump presidency means D.C. is going to be ground zero to a (or several) nuke warheads. OTOH, maybe Trump gets impeached in the first year of his presidency. Decisions, decisions.
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- Labster - 11-05-2016
Let's take a quick break to a recall a simpler time. From Richard's Poor Almanac, on the inauguration of George W. Bush.
![[Image: Piehigh22.jpg]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Piehigh22.jpg)
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming:
//www.funnyordie.com/embed/81d6ba4237HOLY SH*T (You've Got To Vote) from Funny Or Die
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- Morganite - 11-05-2016
ordnance11 Wrote:If you look at what Trump's campaign is doing, it's not actions of a campaign that think it has a chance of winning. Matter of fact, I suspect they're gunning for a low voter turnout. Aka voter suppression.
Trump campaign's voter supression program
So, "voter suppression" is another way of saying attack ads? And it's a sign that a campaign doesn't think it has a chance of winning?
I guess that means the Clinton campaign really, really, doesn't think it has a chance of winning.
-Morgan.
- robkelk - 11-05-2016
Morganite Wrote:The article claims that the ads are designed to discourage people from voting. What is that if not voter suppression?ordnance11 Wrote:If you look at what Trump's campaign is doing, it's not actions of a campaign that think it has a chance of winning. Matter of fact, I suspect they're gunning for a low voter turnout. Aka voter suppression.
Trump campaign's voter supression program
So, "voter suppression" is another way of saying attack ads? ...
I snipped the rest of your comment because none of that was in the cited article.
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."
- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
- ordnance11 - 11-05-2016
Quote:Morganite wrote:No voter suppression means this:Quote:ordnance11 wrote:
If you look at what Trump's campaign is doing, it's not actions of a campaign that think it has a chance of winning. Matter of fact, I suspect they're gunning for a low voter turnout. Aka voter suppression.
Trump campaign's voter supression program
So, "voter suppression" is another way of saying attack ads? And it's a sign that a campaign doesn't think it has a chance of winning?
I guess that means the Clinton campaign really, really, doesn't think it has a chance of winning.
-Morgan.
You can text your vote for Hillary Clinton
So tell me if that is an attack ad.
I wish Trump would make up his mind on whether the polls are rigged or not. And on the other news Fox News did something incredibly stupid:
Also from Fox News:
Fox News apologizes for false report on Clinton indictment
Quote:Baier said he relied on a single anonymous source within the FBI for hisSo no corroboration...Real Watergate style reporting here. Not that it matters to the echo chamber. Baier and the entire news division needs refresher training.
report about an alleged hack of the server: “I was quoting from one
source about his certainty that the server had been hacked by five
foreign intelligence agencies. .?.?. As of today there still are no
digital fingerprints of a breach, no matter what the working assumption
is within the bureau.”
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- Morganite - 11-05-2016
ordnance11 Wrote:No voter suppression means this:
You can text your vote for Hillary Clinton
So tell me if that is an attack ad.
It certainly doesn't look like a thing that was described in the last article you linked. And whether Trump's campaign was involved in it, I don't see how it changes my main proposition - that Trump both wants to win and thinks he can pull it off. The time to stop assuming Trump wasn't serious or didn't have a chance was late January.
-Morgan.
- ordnance11 - 11-05-2016
Quote:Morganite wrote:And of it the state government North Carolina in this case doing it? Which is held by the GOP and purging voting rolls deemed illegal by the Justice Department?Quote:ordnance11 wrote:
No voter suppression means this:
You can text your vote for Hillary Clinton
So tell me if that is an attack ad.
It certainly doesn't look like a thing that was described in the last article you linked. And whether Trump's campaign was involved in it, I don't see how it changes my main proposition - that Trump both wants to win and thinks he can pull it off. The time to stop assuming Trump wasn't serious or didn't have a chance was late January.
-Morgan.
Quote:A federal judge ruled on Fridayhttp://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... ights.html
that North Carolina’s recent voter purges likely violated federal law,
ordering the restoration of voting rights to thousands of people—most of
them minorities—in an emphatic ruling. U.S. District Judge Loretta
Biggs, who previously described
North Carolina’s system of revoking voting rights as “insane” and
reminiscent of Jim Crow–style voter suppression, held that the purges
constituted a “flawed process” that ran afoul of the National Voter
Registration Act.
The Robert's Supreme Court argument for emasculating the Voting Rights Act was that prejudice no longer exists. I have to wonder what the conservative bloc was smoking at the time.
The time stop thinking that Trump wasn't serious was when all the candidates were his enablers in the very beginning. Yes he wants to win. Whether he gets a statue after all of this is a different proposition.
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- Morganite - 11-05-2016
Okay, look, is your position that what that first article I replied to described *isn't* voter suppression after all? Because if it is, then I totally agree with you. And if it isn't, then I'm really not sure what the things you've been posting are supposed to be saying about the thing I was replying to in the first place.
-Morgan.
- ordnance11 - 11-05-2016
Quote:Morganite wrote:No I am saying that what I posted earlier is voter suppression for clarification. Your argument seemed to be attack ads aren't. So why did they say it is voter suppression? And it fits into a wider narrative, that the GOP at the county, state level in critical states are engaging in voter suppression tactics. Trump has already public said to his supporters to conduct "poll monitoring" in minority neighborhoods. Is there any valid reason to pull such an odious stunt?
Okay, look, is your position that what that first article I replied to described *isn't* voter suppression after all? Because if it is, then I totally agree with you. And if it isn't, then I'm really not sure what the things you've been posting are supposed to be saying about the thing I was replying to in the first place.
-Morgan.
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