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Star Wars, Machete Order - Logan Darklighter - 06-30-2012 And speaking of sci-fi franchises that are damn near ruined by their sequels... (AHEM) I hope someone looks at the post title and goes "Bwah?" Cause that was kinda my reaction when I first saw it too. ^_^ So yeah - what the heck is "Machete Order" a reference to? It's a suggestion on the order in which to watch the Star Wars movies, both the original and the prequel trilogy. The author of this blog-post right here suggests watching the movies in the following order: IV, V, II, III, VI. Where's number 1? The Phantom Menace? That's where the "machete" comes in. The author, Rob Hilton, has a few interesting points about how Phantom Menace is entirely unneeded to tell the story if you are introducing a potential new fan of Star Wars who has never before seen the films. Here's a few tidbits: Quote:There are two obvious options for watching the Star Wars saga. BTW - do please watch the video of those kids reaction. It is UTTERLY PRICELESS!!! Quote:Unfortunately, Release Order is also an instant failure, and the reason is a single shot. If you're watching the original trilogy first, then after the Empire is destroyed and everyone is celebrating, Luke looks over at his mentors, Ben Kenobi and Yoda, and suddenly they are joined by... some random creepy looking teenager who needs a haircut. Placing Hayden Christensen in the ending of Jedi, since he's not in ANY of the other films, turns an ending that should be celebratory into one that is confusing for the viewer. The fact that Christensen looks like he's undressing someone with his eyes doesn't help. (This of course assumes you are watching the more recent releases of the edited films. (BARF) But since a lot of people won't have access to older versions, you have to make do.) He then goes on to explain how a previous fan had suggested inserting the prequel trilogy between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Quote:Effectively, this order keeps the story Luke's tale. Just when Luke is left with the burning question "how did my father become Darth Vader?" we take an extended flashback to explain exactly how. Once we understand how his father turned to the dark side, we go back to the main storyline and see how Luke is able to rescue him from it and salvage the good in him. Then he makes the interesting suggestion that Phantom Menace need not be included at all. Quote:Episode I is a failure on every possible level. The acting, writing, directing, and special effects are all atrocious, and the movie is just plain boring. Luckily, George Lucas has done everyone a favor by making the content of Episode I completely irrelevant to the rest of the series. Seriously, think about it for a minute. Name as many things as you can that happen in Episode I and actually help flesh out the story in any subsequent episode. I can only think of one thing, which I'll mention later. But he's not just bagging on Episode 1, (though I'd be totally with him on that) Quote:As I mentioned, this creates a lot of tension after the cliffhanger ending of Episode V. It also uses the original trilogy as a framing device for the prequel trilogy. Vader drops this huge bomb that he's Luke's father, then we spend two movies proving he's telling the truth, then we see how it gets resolved. The Star Wars watching experience gets to start with the film that does the best job of establishing the Star Wars universe, Episode IV, and it ends with the most satisfying ending, Episode VI. It also starts the series off with the two strongest films, and allows you to never have to either start or end your viewing experience with a shitty movie. Two films of Luke's story, two films of Anakin's story, then a single film that intertwines and ends both stories. Well... I'd argue that Attack of the Clones wasn't a good film either, but... I'll let that pass. It has it's moments. I do agree that the removal of the age difference thing improves things markedly. And giving the boot to the kid portrayal also helps the character consistancy. Quote:This order also preserves both twists. George Lucas knew that watching the films in Episode Order would remove the Vader twist, so he added the Palpatine twist to compensate. Since we don't really meet the Emperor until Episode VI, this order preserves the twist around Palpatine taking over as Emperor. Episode I establishes that Darth Sidious is manipulating the Trade Federation in the opening scene of the film, and it's pretty obvious Sidious is Palpatine. But if you skip Episode I, all we ever see is that Count Dooku is leading a separatist movement, all on his own. Dooku tells Obi-Wan that the Senate is under the control of a Sith lord named "Darth Sidious", but at the end of the movie, after Dooku flees from Geonosis, he meets with his "master", who turns out to be Darth Sidious. This is the first time we realize that the separatist movement is actually being controlled by Sidious, and it's the first time we see him, which doesn't give the audience a chance to realize he's Palpatine (remember, nobody has ever referred to "Emperor Palpatine" by this point in the series). Anyway - I recommend reading the whole article. It's very well done and has done a lot to get me interested in seeing the films again. |