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Container ship hits destroyer - seven dead - robkelk - 06-17-2017 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-navy-de ... -1.4165714 USS Fitzgerald has made it back to Yokosuka after the container ship ASX Crystal collided with the destroyer. Seven sailors are missing. The CO is in hospital in stable condition; two others are being treated in hospital; more are being treated aboard ship. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Pyeknu - 06-17-2017 That's going to be quite the rebuild. - Star Ranger4 - 06-17-2017 Depends on how bad the leaks under the waterline are. What I'm seeing is a bunch of crumpled hull, but not any critical structural damage; it will take longer to refurbish the flooded berthing compartments than to actually patch the hull. Sadly, that CO's carreer is OVER. Doesn't matter if the board of Inquiry finds him not at fault, the navy's never going to give him another command. All of which reminds me of a very OLD (though updated slightly) Navy joke: "Dammit, I'm a CARRIER, and I have the right of way! Adjust your course NOW" "And I'm a Lighthouse. Your call..." Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- NO QUARTER!!! -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children - Black Aeronaut - 06-17-2017 The situation is more complicated than that. Firstly, the container ship has a bulbous bow, meaning that there is just as much carnage under the Fitz's waterline. Secondly, this happened in an exceedingly dangerous passage with heavy shipping traffic and limited visibility due to land mass. The Fitz was, more likely than not, operating under restricted maneuvering rules and was unable to avoid a collision. Look at what side of the Fitz the damage is on. She was heading IN TO port when it happened. Rules regarding shipping lanes state you always keep to the right side of the lane. Meanwhile, on the container ship, the damage on the bow was on the LEFT side. Someone was trying to get into the lane in an awful goddamn hurry. - hazard - 06-18-2017 I wouldn't be too hopeful about the missing sailors. A collision like this probably means they're a smear. - RMH999 - 06-18-2017 Bodies of missing crew found - they found the remains in flooded compartments on the ship. If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? - Albert Einstein - Black Aeronaut - 06-18-2017 Poor guys. They probably got stuck in their racks where the bulkheads got shoved inwards. - Star Ranger4 - 06-19-2017 Hopefully they never woke up. Cant thing of anything worse than being trapped in a flooding space like that. Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- NO QUARTER!!! -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children - Black Aeronaut - 06-20-2017 I haven't seen anything in the big news networks about it yet, but other websites are reporting that the ACX Crystal made two sharp turns, the second one right before it struck the Fitzgerald. http://twitter.com/esneet4113/status/8 ... 7099004929 http://twitter.com/esneet4113/status/8 ... 5420945408 http://twitter.com/StratSentinel/statu ... 4477996032 Someone was asleep at the helm. D: - Star Ranger4 - 06-20-2017 Or drunk. But still, it doesn't matter if the CO did everything right and the boards aquit him; he may not be relieved of his command, but he's never going to be offered another. Hell, every one of his brother officers, junior or senior will sit around and pontificate about how if it had been them on the bridge they would have kept it from happening. Have we heard if he was even on the bridge? from the fact that guys were in their racks asleep it sounds like the sea and anchor detail wasn't set yet; and if it was that hour of the morning the chances are that the officer of the watch was fairly junior. Again, the sort of things that give CO's ulcers. Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- NO QUARTER!!! -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children - robkelk - 06-20-2017 The original report was that the CO was the most severely injured of the survivors - that indicates to me that he probably wasn't on the bridge. But I'm Tuesday-morning-quarterbacking here with limited data. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Black Aeronaut - 06-20-2017 The CO was asleep in his stateroom... As was his right given that it was something like 2 or 3am when this went down. - classicdrogn - 06-23-2017 So how long until we see the USS Gary Leo Rehm, I wonder? http://www.businessinsider.com/this-sai ... ald-2017-6 -- "Anko, what you do in your free time is your own choice. Use it wisely. And if you do not use it wisely, make sure you thoroughly enjoy whatever unwise thing you are doing." - HymnOfRagnorok as Orochimaru at SpaceBattles woot Med. Eng., verb, 1st & 3rd pers. prsnt. sg. know, knows Re: Container ship hits destroyer - seven dead - nocarename - 08-21-2017 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-navy-de ... -1.4255174 Well. Damn. Tanker ship and destroyer off Singapore this time. Re: Container ship hits destroyer - seven dead - Black Aeronaut - 08-21-2017 WHAT IN THE FUCK. Re: Container ship hits destroyer - seven dead - Star Ranger4 - 08-21-2017 Remember what I said about what would happen to the CO? http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-s-ship-c ... -1.4252157Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- [b]NO QUARTER!!![/b] -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children Re: Container ship hits destroyer - seven dead - robkelk - 08-21-2017 CBC is now reporting "U.S. Navy to halt, review operations as 2nd collision leaves 10 sailors missing". No story link yet.-- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 Re: Container ship hits destroyer - seven dead - Star Ranger4 - 08-22-2017 This troubles me.  It may not be the third time, but somehow this strikes my paranoia as Enemy Action.  But who, and why?Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- [b]NO QUARTER!!![/b] -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children