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Soyuz program makes history - robkelk - 10-11-2018
The first-ever ballistic descent of a crewed capsule took place today, when the second-stage booster of the launch rocket suffered an emergency shutdown. Alexey Ovchinin of Roscosmos and Nick Hague of NASA were aboard; both survived the descent and are reported as being in good condition.
AP: 2 astronauts safe after Soyuz forced to make emergency landing
RE: Soyuz program makes history - Bob Schroeck - 10-11-2018
So that's what I heard a fragment of on the radio this morning. Wow.
Thanks for posting that, Rob.
RE: Soyuz program makes history - Dartz - 10-11-2018
A succesful failure, so.
If that'd been a Vatican space program, neither astronaut or cosmonaut would've survived.
Either way, there's something a little bit rotten with the Russian space program. It's hard to escape the sense that quality control is starting to go out the window - either because of management growing fat on its laurels, or a workforce too afraid to report any issues that occur in production in case they get utterly shat on by a fat management desperate to scapegoat someone to hide their own ineptitude.
RE: Soyuz program makes history - robkelk - 10-11-2018
Yeah. Two missions in the same year, in a program that's supposedly using mature technology. Something's wrong there.
RE: Soyuz program makes history - Epsilon - 10-12-2018
It's probably just old technology, much like the space shuttles which NASA phased out because they were too dangerous or expensive.
RE: Soyuz program makes history - Black Aeronaut - 10-13-2018
Just because technology is old doesn't mean it's dangerous. It's how its used that makes it dangerous.
As mentioned before, the Soyuz system is a mature one - its well understood and robust. There are no undocumented features, and thus far there seems to have been no gremlins left in the design.
This, more likely than not, was a manufacturing defect - one in a process where quality assurance program should not have failed because they know damn well what a defect will do. We just saw it happen.
RE: Soyuz program makes history - Norgarth - 10-13-2018
Epsilon may have meant old as in 'they've been reusing that piece of equpment for 20 years and it's wearing out'
RE: Soyuz program makes history - robkelk - 10-13-2018
Possibly... but the Soyuz rockets are single-use, IIRC.
RE: Soyuz program makes history - Epsilon - 10-14-2018
(10-13-2018, 04:14 PM)robkelk Wrote: Possibly... but the Soyuz rockets are single-use, IIRC.
Yes, but is the factory single use? Wear and tear doesn't just happen to the final product.
RE: Soyuz program makes history - Black Aeronaut - 10-16-2018
(10-14-2018, 03:25 AM)Epsilon Wrote:(10-13-2018, 04:14 PM)robkelk Wrote: Possibly... but the Soyuz rockets are single-use, IIRC.
Yes, but is the factory single use? Wear and tear doesn't just happen to the final product.
Generally, a good QA program renders that a moot point as the finished product is that which is inspected.