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Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Labster - 12-21-2018 It's time for the end of season 2 of the Trump Presidency, and wow, were there some twists and turns over the year. But now, the cliffhangers keep piling on. It's like Trump saw the season 1 ender for Twin Peaks, and thought hey, I can do more cliffhangers than that. And then he told Theresa May, "You call that a shambles? I can show you a better shambles, I'm the most shambolic person I know, believe me." Key highlights of this week's episode:
RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - hazard - 12-21-2018 (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: It's time for the end of season 2 of the Trump Presidency, and wow, were there some twists and turns over the year. But now, the cliffhangers keep piling on. It's like Trump saw the season 1 ender for Twin Peaks, and thought hey, I can do more cliffhangers than that. And then he told Theresa May, "You call that a shambles? I can show you a better shambles, I'm the most shambolic person I know, believe me." Classic Republican style that, blaming everybody else for their own failures. Paul, my friend, you and your party held the national executive and legislative branch for two years now, and a large number of states all of the state executive, legislative and judicial branches. How the fuck did you not manage to do more? (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: Arrests for corruption pending, but possibly not going to happen until the Trump Administration series concludes. (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: Sucks to be Texan. But last I checked Texas is massively Republican so... I'm just going to point and laugh. (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: You see, the thing is, if you swear an oath to protect a country, it tends to be a bad idea to break that oath, especially if you keep trading on that time you publicly spend upholding that oath. For some reason people find it weighs more than never having sworn that oath and doing the same things that would've broken that oath. (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: Wait, a Republican Congress actually makes a sensible decision? Hell must be freezing. Or the Democrats have started blackmailing like the Republicans have been doing for oh, more than a decade now. (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: Congress will overrule him. The Democrats will probably successfully blame him and the Republicans. (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: Obstruction of Justice charges now pending. No I'm not saying he's going to get charged. I'm saying that any sensible Justice Department will now have a form letter ready to charge the AAG Matt Whitaker where they only need to fill in the dates and the reference numbers. (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: And no tears were shed. Also Labster? Remember that she last guy she had a relation with is currently being charged for being a Russian spy and I think she'll hang him out to dry. You sure you want to get involved with that? (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: Unless the public says 'great idea.' (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: In other news, everybody has long since realized that under Trump at least the USA is a terrible ally. Alternative arrangements are being considered. This would explain why Vlad gave a thumbs up. (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: DoD plan: Leave ehm there for at least another decade to root out terrorists. What? (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: The only surprise in this is that Mattis resigned without arranging things ahead of time. (12-21-2018, 02:02 AM)Labster Wrote: I'm sure it'll be a terrible accident when Trump falls from the airplane because he toyed with the loading ramp and the Secret Service agents were in the break room enjoying their unpaid leave. RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - SilverFang01 - 12-21-2018 On the whole, this isn’t a great season. There are too many detours, too many balls dropped, and some insanely short memories. There are worse ways to end the season. Maybe over the winter break, the writers can figure out a way to use the newcomers talents to better effect. Season grade: C+ RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - classicdrogn - 12-21-2018 The omnishambles shambles on: some GOP senators can't get into the White House for their meeting with Trump From CNN's Ted Barrett: Quote:As Senate Republicans head to the White House for a meeting with President Trump, a source, who asked not to be identified, tells CNN that “things are so chaotic at the White House that some Republican senators can’t get in because Secret Service didn’t even have time to clear them (or the staff who is driving them there!)” RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Labster - 12-21-2018 Oh, one more plot twist, straight out of a soap opera:
RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - classicdrogn - 12-21-2018 And after hours of overtime play, it looks like a no-deal exit for Congress. Jennifer Haberkorn Wrote:@SenBobCorker advises reporters to go home and have a scotch.(source: The Guardian original tweet) And a very merry Christmas to all the Whos in government jobs, who won't need to worry about the Grinch stealing the roast beast off their tables this year. Hope you already got your furnace fuel tanks filled, but hey, on the bright side there's always global warming! ETA: Incidentally, the power went off for me right around the same time this happened. Engage tinfoil hats! RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - ordnance11 - 12-24-2018 The good news is that my agency got funded before. What I now see is 2019 - The year of living dangerously RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Rajvik - 12-25-2018 i almost started a thread "Are you ready for a shutdown?" because i saw this coming as soon as the election results came in. It's political hamstringing that is probably going to do the same thing to congress in two years that the Kavenaugh senate hearings did to the senate. Trump told them what he wanted, offered to negotiate ON CAMERA, and Pelosi and Schumer wanted to take it behind closed doors, i'm sorry but that doesnt make me (and probably those who think like me) anything but more likely to get rid of them. Anyone willing to take bets on the status of congress as of the election of 2020? RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - classicdrogn - 12-25-2018 The thing about negotiating is that one side has to be willing to accept the other's priority items, and "build a big border wall" is not compatible with "don't spend billions on a big border wall." Sort of like the Brexiteers insisting on continuing to trade in the EU's free market being part of an exit deal, and the EU holding that as a privilege for current member states. RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Labster - 12-25-2018 Ravjik, I don't think you know how all-in Democrats are against the wall. If it means a 25 month government shutdown, that's what it will be. There was a chance about a year ago where we would have traded wall funding for DACA. But elections have consequences, and voter opinion has been moving away from funding the wall since last year. The Democratic base sees it as wasteful, racist, and futile. It's one of those things -- do you think a wall will keep rats from crossing the border? Are humans smarter than rats when confronted with obstacles? Mostly likely, though, HR 1 in the next session just approves the Senate version without wall funding, and Trump caves in and signs it. Next most likely involves the same approach as above, but with the Congress overriding his veto. There aren't enough Republicans willing to die on this particular hill to make it happen. Sorry, Rajvik. RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - hazard - 12-26-2018 (12-25-2018, 09:11 PM)Rajvik Wrote: i almost started a thread "Are you ready for a shutdown?" because i saw this coming as soon as the election results came in. It's political hamstringing that is probably going to do the same thing to congress in two years that the Kavenaugh senate hearings did to the senate. Trump told them what he wanted, offered to negotiate ON CAMERA, and Pelosi and Schumer wanted to take it behind closed doors, i'm sorry but that doesnt make me (and probably those who think like me) anything but more likely to get rid of them. Anyone willing to take bets on the status of congress as of the election of 2020? Except that, you know, taking the negotiations out of the public eye would've most likely helped Trump a lot more than trying to do them on camera. Trump's just plainly a terrible negotiator, and Schumer and Pelosi both would've made him look terrible on camera and then walked out, successfully blaming him again except this time it's even more damaging to his standing in the public eye. RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Matrix Dragon - 12-26-2018 You did see his attempt at ambushing them with a public interview, right? Where he declared he would own the shutdown? RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Black Aeronaut - 12-26-2018 Why are the Democrats not giving an inch? This tweet sums it up perfectly. https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1076842956399824896 He has the money for it already. He's just looking for a symbolic victory for something that is symbolic in and of itself. RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Labster - 01-10-2019 As of tomorrow, it will be the longest government shutdown on record. The negotiating positions so far: * Democrats: The wall is racist * Trump: The wall is necessary to stop an emergency Unfortunately, there's no give in either position. If a $5 billion wall is racist, a $1 wall will be racist too. Or if it's a national emergency, then anything less than full funding is an existential threat to the country. The narrative on immigration reform has been completely lost, as usual. The groundhog saw his shadow, looks like 6 more weeks of shutdown. RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Dartz - 01-11-2019 I still don't understand hjow you can have hundreds of thousands of people going unpaid. And not have a civil war. I still don't understand how a government can end up in a position where it wont pay its employees. European States have done quite fine without 'official' governments - sometimes for years - because the civil service kept getting paid and there was a balance to prevent these morons. The rules remained the same while everyone figured out what to do. One wonders if there isn't a case for making the Wall trumps Pyrrhic victory. Something he'll give anything to achieve - like real policy wins that have a positive effect, rather than something that'll be an unfinished joke in ten years. Either that or a compromise so unpallatable - like actual reform reforms. Use it as the noose to strangle him - the wall is built, the world recognises it as the folley it is, but some good comes of it. B RE: Cliffhanger: Trump Presidency Season Finale - Black Aeronaut - 01-11-2019 I doubt that Trump will make any sort of deal like that. Also, looks like you were only half-finished with that post, Dartz. Aside, but somewhat on-topic: Fox erroneously reports that every illegal immigrant that 'comes over the wall' costs American taxpayers $80,000 a year. Truth? That's actually the cost of resettling refugees. Which illegal immigrants aren't - they do their own 'resettling' so as to remain under the radar, thank you very much. Source: https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-host-illegal-immigrant-cost-taxpayers-1285581 |