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I stumped Perplexity. Can anyone else help? - robkelk - 03-18-2026 I stumped Perplexity with the question "When was the first sunrise after September 13, 2018 at Tycho Crater on the Moon?" Quote:I can’t determine an exact clock time or Earth date for that specific sunrise with the information and capabilities I have. As one might guess from this being posted to the My Apartment Manager is not an Isekai Character forum, the exact location in Tycho Crater is TMA-1. (What, you thought that only HAL-9000 was displaced from 2001?) Does anyone here have any of what's needed to answer my question, or know where to find it online? RE: I stumped Perplexity. Can anyone else help? - Bob Schroeck - 03-18-2026 ChatGPT just gave me an answer it says is correct to within 10 to 20 minutes -- approximately 04:49 UTC on 9/16/2018. I just sent you an email with a link to the conversation. RE: I stumped Perplexity. Can anyone else help? - robkelk - 03-19-2026 Thanks, Bob. RE: I stumped Perplexity. Can anyone else help? - Bob Schroeck - 03-19-2026 No problem. RE: I stumped Perplexity. Can anyone else help? - Labster - 03-19-2026 Using Stellarium, I got a sun crossing the 0° inclination at 2018-09-18 09:28:40Z, using Wikipedia's lat/long for the crater. I think it would likely be later than this, because you're in a crater, so there's some hills on the horizon. If you're at the deepest point of the crater, you're 4.7km down, in an 85 km diameter crater, so you'd get an additional angle of... θ = tan⁻¹ 4.7 km / ( 85/2 km ) = 6.31° But some of this will be taken up by the Moon's curvature, so let's get its portion of the circumference 42.5 km * ( 360° / 10000 km ) = 1.53° For some reason I feel like this is the same angle as the horizon due to some geometry but I'm not going to even try without a piece of paper, just accepting the number So depending on your altitude, you could need to get up to 4.78°, which could be as late as 2018-09-18 22:40:37Z ... though you'd see the sun on the other side of the crater first. RE: I stumped Perplexity. Can anyone else help? - robkelk - 03-19-2026 Thanks, Brent. You and Bob agree on the date, but not the time... so I'll just have folks show up the day before and spend a day waiting for the sunrise. (Waiting for the sunrise? Cue Les Paul... EDIT: or Benny Goodman.)
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