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Lancer series - robkelk - 09-01-2011 I just saw http://www.fenspace.net/index.php5?title=Lancer-series]the page for this over on the FenWiki. Bigger than a Peacemaker and as fast as a Blackbird? That's a lot of Cool being hogged... -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Dartz - 09-01-2011 I posted some of the draft description in IRC and nobody objected, but I can change it. I thought Blackbirds went up to .2, so split the difference between both spacecraft, and deleted the ability to carry squadrons of Zigs. Most of the specifications like transport capabilities and the like were based on the actual wikipedia article on the B1. The B-36 can carry 39 tons internally, the B1 can hold 30 tons, and 20 externally, but it's got nowhere near the internal volume a B-36 has. (It actually carries more than a B-52. The problem is that it's expensive, and a maintenance/reliability nightmare, and not as flexible as the bigger bombers) I thought of it as being like a gaming laptop. It's not really as good a mobile computer as a standard laptop and not as powerful as a desktop, and probably costs more than the combination.... and is more prone to breaking. It gets the best and worst of both worlds.... I could change the speed ratings down to .8 and .1, splitting the middle again. Any other ideas? ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - robkelk - 09-01-2011 That's still faster than a Peacemaker... (And I still have to figure out how to use IRC, in my Copious Free Time.) -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Dartz - 09-01-2011 I'm not sure how to argue this without it seeming silly or whiny, but. The Peacemaker is a much bigger spacecraft internally, has 4 cargobays and a full array of internal armaments, and fittings for potentially 19 crew, another 8 fighter pilots, and the fuel for a long-range patrol. The Lancer is a smaller spaceframe, has 3 smaller, irregularly shaped cargobays, and is just barely big enough to comfortably stand up inside. All the mass the peacemaker uses for it's internal armaments and for keeping an extra 13 people alive, goes into the external hardpoints fitted to the Lancer. It's got a higher carrying capacity because it's using less mass for other stuff. It carries up to 5 human crew, and has no internal weapons. Even a Blackbird can carry 4 Zigs mounted externally, and has onboard weaponry. Could handwave it away as the Lancer's continuously variable drive field not being able to accommodate too much external interruptions of the craft's skin. By retracting the wings and using a pair of sensor probes on the nose to continuously monitor the field status, and powerful computers continuously adjusting the sweep angle of the wings to adjust the field geometry as tight as possible to the spaceframe keeping things stable Oh, and try Mibbit If that finely crafted link works, it should bring you right in. EDIT: This is really something that needs BA's input anyway. Edit the 2nd: Because I've had some time to think, and because using real-life numbers was asking for trouble on my part and I should've known better. 3 Internal bays, 6 external hardpoints. Internal mass 20 tons, external mass 5 tons. Unloaded top speed, .12... loaded top speed, .1.... with external stores, .8. Knightwing's carrying 4 tons in the rear cargobay (Motoroids + equipment). 4 in the center (Hardsuit + life/crew support), and the forward has been modified to extend the crew compartment for an extra 4. (2 beds, a cooking area, and an elegantly compact shower/WC) ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - HRogge - 09-01-2011 Lets not forget that the normal Blackbirds can only do 0.12c... just the Magnificent Midnight is the real speed devil. - Black Aeronaut - 09-01-2011 I'll leave it up to the others, but I will say that this is (albeit barely) Infinities material, where ships are undoubtedly going to be getting faster. - Dartz - 09-02-2011 Right. Re-edited version for everyone's consideration. Quote:The Lancer Project began in mid 2016, with the aim of developing a high speed spacecraft capable of combining some of the carrying capacity of a Peacemaker, with some the speed of Blackbird series. The end result was the Lancer, a mouldline copy of the original Rockwell B1-B. So. It's effectively midway between a Blackbird and Peacemaker, with a bit of a bonus thanks to 2 years of hard research and the advancement of technology. it pays something of a technical price for it's speed.... it's an added (and not too difficult) target and it's easy to lose the bonus if going any external loads. And it's handy having an actual model to take inspiration from, I would never have noticed the little mustache winglets on the nose otherwise... ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? |