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Zone Arcs That Should Be - Valles - 05-04-2007
[The Legendary] valles: Woah, wait, there's a frickin' huge -canyon- in Dark Astoria?!
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Yeah.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: That "canyon is a graveyard]
[The Legendary] valles: Moreso than the rest of the zone.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: You know, DA is an easier fix than Faultline
[The Legendary] valles: There -has- to be an interesting story behind the whole 'vanished population' thing.
[The Legendary] Hexane: Gah, Paragon is so much brighter than the Isles. Must turn down gamma.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Just give it a contac chain arc.
[The Legendary] valles: *NODNOD*
[The Legendary] Foxboy: First contact is in the Hospital
[The Legendary] valles: I even -have- one that I'm trying to write a fic for.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Gotta involve the BP
[The Legendary] Foxboy: and the Tsoo
[The Legendary] valles: Nah.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Folks dont even RELAIZE there's Tsoo in there
[The Legendary] valles: CoT
[The Legendary] valles: There are Tsoo in DA?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Yup
[The Legendary] valles: So, the Circle - and the Tsoo, mebbe - are investigating DA.
[The Legendary] valles: Because, whatever happened...
[The Legendary] valles: ...like, -ate- -people-.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: LOTS of juju
[The Legendary] valles: Maybe it got their souls, too, maybe it didn't.
[The Legendary] valles: But all of them are -dead-, and the power in their lives -went somewhere-.
[The Legendary] valles: Figuring out that much is the first contact's arc.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Add some Croatoa/Ghost ship ghosts as well to the door mishes
[The Legendary] valles: Mmm... no ghost ships. I have a thought for that, later. Just hit me.
[The Legendary] valles: Second contact...
[The Legendary] Foxboy: AVs... new or pre existing?
[The Legendary] valles: ...draws the conclusion that, since the BP -didn't exist- before Astoria went Dark...
[The Legendary] valles: ...that power? Raised their minions. Freed their bosses. Etc, etc.
[The Legendary] valles: His arc is tracking down -how-. Forensics, sorta.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: So contacts will have a Kolchak/Medium/ST Elsewhere vibe
[The Legendary] valles: Third contact... thinks they're getting ready to do it -again-.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: To... say... Atlas?
[The Legendary] valles: Or Steel, or - no. Talos. To Talos.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Gotta include a trip to Croatoa for something in there though
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Even if it's just a fedex/ambush mish
[The Legendary] valles: So... stopping their plan...
[The Legendary] valles: ...it takes, y'know, preperations. Spell groundwork.
[The Legendary] valles: Croatoa works in, there.
[The Legendary] valles: The BP twigs to this.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: NASTY ambushes
[The Legendary] valles: Does some of their necromantic ritual shit.
[The Legendary] valles: Aims the Ghost Ship at the center of the defense preperations.
[The Legendary] valles: A la Babbage in Synapse.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Who
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Whoa
[The Legendary] Foxboy: rahter
[The Legendary] valles: *snrk*
[The Legendary] valles: Once -that-'s done with...
[The Legendary] valles: Croatoa again, but just passing through.
[The Legendary] valles: Headed to the -spirit world-.
[The Legendary] valles: On a mission from G.O.D.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: And we get to see "bright astoria loaded with BP and RedCaps?
[The Legendary] valles: Gerald Owen Demontheses
[The Legendary] valles: Ayep.
[The Legendary] valles: On our way to confront the key to the BP plan...
[The Legendary] valles: Who is, of course, either an AV or a GM in his own right.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Snappy! or one of the Unseelie
[The Legendary] valles: I don't think that that'd have the right feel.
[The Legendary] valles: Snappy is - nasty as he tries to be - too lighthearted.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: So unseelie.
[The Legendary] valles: I mean, kidnapping _Baby New Year_?!
[The Legendary] valles: He's a joke.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Magic-origin nasty Khelds
[The Legendary] Foxboy: A joke with a nasty Punchline
[The Legendary] valles: This calls for something grim and awful and- *groan*
[The Legendary] valles: ...as much as I hate to say it, being very against the man's works and themes, Lovecraftian.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Lughebu's cronies, eh?
[The Legendary] valles: Or the mad bad man himself.
[The Legendary] valles: Oh, something else I'd wanna put in the DA plotline:
[The Legendary] Foxboy: He does not get the item, so he raises his bid to his next round, 5000
[The Legendary] valles: 'Run away from the AV'
[The Legendary] valles: A chase scene.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: All benny hill like, eh?
[The Legendary] valles: I guess.
[The Legendary] valles: I'm picturing more... hitchcock, if that makes sense.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: North by northwest?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: OR The Birds?
[The Legendary] valles: The first, if I'm remembering my film history right.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: My brother used to hang out ina building that Hitch ate lunch in during the filming of one of his movies.
[The Legendary] valles: Contact: 'Go here, do this'
[The Legendary] valles: Player: *does so*
[The Legendary] valles: AV: 'Hi! You can die now!'
[The Legendary] valles: Player: !!!! OMFG!! *dies*
[The Legendary] valles: AV: 'Nice hospital. ^_^'
[The Legendary] Jimmy Amp: ok, after quitting the team in which I got one piece of invention salvage, I've gotten 3 pieces in the first 5 mobs of my solo mission
[The Legendary] valles: Player: !!! *dies again*
[The Legendary] valles: AV: 'Hiiiii!'
[The Legendary] Foxboy: And I'm telling you, from TEST. The numbers are EXACTLY the SAME
[The Legendary] valles: Player: @%$^#@ *tries running, this time*
[The Legendary] valles: AV: *chasechase*
[The Legendary] valles: Player: *runrun*
[The Legendary] valles: AV: *chasechase*
[The Legendary] Jimmy Amp: but the chance per mob is to give it to one member of the team, right? so on a team, the chances get spread out between the team members, correct?
[The Legendary] valles: Player: *run* HALP! *run*
[The Legendary] valles: Contact: Try this.
[The Legendary] valles: AV: *chasechase*
[The Legendary] valles: Player: *runrun* *does this*
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Yes, but teams have in general LOTS more mobs than solo, so thit's supposed to balance out
[The Legendary] valles: Contact: Try that.
[The Legendary] valles: AV: *chasechase*
[The Legendary] Jimmy Amp: well, so far, in my experience, it hasn't... I have yet to do any TFs, though
[The Legendary] valles: Player: *runrun* *tries that*
[The Legendary] valles: Contact: Okay, now fight.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: And, V, this sounds like the post-arc TF
[The Legendary] valles: Player: What are you, crazy?!
[The Legendary] valles: Player: *runrun*
[The Legendary] valles: ...'post-arc?'
[The Legendary] Foxboy: For example: Striga Isle
[The Legendary] valles: AV: *chasechase*
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Post-arc is Burkholder
[The Legendary] valles: Hmm.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Croatoa: Post-arc is Katie Hannon
[The Legendary] valles: It really would fit better as a TF... but...
[The Legendary] valles: ...the arc's resolution is kinda final, the way I see it.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: It's liek the Daffy Duck Dynamite trick?
[The Legendary] valles: Nani?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: 'It's a great trick, but I can only do it ONCE'
[The Legendary] valles: Ahhh. Yeah, exactly.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Each zone NEEDS a TF
[The Legendary] Foxboy: ^_^
[The Legendary] valles: Player: *runrun* *duck into alley* Aw, $@#%!!
[The Legendary] valles: AV: Cornered ya!
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Co-op zone concept
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Paragon's Little Asia
[The Legendary] valles: Player: *fights*
[The Legendary] valles: AV: Well, gosh.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: AV: Half hour fight if oyu have this issue's magic bullet
[The Legendary] valles: Player: BOOYAH! FUCK YEAH! TAKE THAT, BITCH!!
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Hehehe
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Only problem:
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Lots of playrs WILL NOT LIKE the "required" debt
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Too dim to get teh concept, see.
[The Legendary] valles: Well, it's not really 'required', the way I see it.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: IF you JUST RUN IN THE FIRST PALCE!
[The Legendary] valles: It's only a question of how long it takes them to figure out, 'Don't fight, dumbass!'
[The Legendary] valles: Exactly.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Hm. Howabout the "hint" they give in The STF and LRSF?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: +4 AV
[The Legendary] valles: What hint are you talking about?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: EVen when it's solo
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Heck, "Giant Monstering" it works too
[The Legendary] valles: I've had a thought as to plotlines for Boomtown.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: The CH must be on the same server. and.. Justice went BOOM
[The Legendary] valles: Ahhh.
[The Legendary] valles: Eek.
[The Legendary] valles: So... Boomtown was a major hotspot during the Rikti War, right?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: So of course everyone hops to Virtue.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Right
[The Legendary] valles: So, say that, though it's never come up before...
[The Legendary] valles: ...at some major turning point, the entire district got locked down.
[The Legendary] valles: By agency unknown. Nothing in, nothing out.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Tie it into Crey.
[The Legendary] valles: Survivors reported being herded into safe zones and shelters by masked heroes they couldn't recognize.
[The Legendary] valles: What happened, we find out in this arc...
[The Legendary] valles: ...was that either Crey or the Rikti themselves...
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Post these suggestions to the Boards. Seriously
[The Legendary] valles: ...were trying to develope a stasis/fast-time weapon.
[The Legendary] valles: Like Batman's Clock King.
[The Legendary] valles: The entire arc is a time travel thing.
[The Legendary] valles: Welcome to the War.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Woohoo! Both of them, right?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Rikti and the Big 2
[The Legendary] valles: 'The Big 2'?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Golden Age States FTW
[The Legendary] valles: Ohhh...
[The Legendary] valles: Hmm.
[The Legendary] valles: Make that the TF.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: kk
[The Legendary] valles: I was mostly thinking in terms of the sheer awe value of throwing PCs into the middle of the height of that kind of battle.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Baumton would have been a major target for Sabotage during the Second World War, since the armory was there
[The Legendary] valles: NPC heroes all over the place, villain-hero co-op, soldier-rikti like you usually see monkeys...
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Whoa.
[The Legendary] valles: ...and, WWII would tie in oh-so-well with those rumors about the Fifth Column coming back.
[The Legendary] valles: 'You remember how we won the war?'
[The Legendary] valles: 'There's a chance that could change.'
[The Legendary] Foxboy: OOOH
[The Legendary] valles: 'We need -everybody- we can get ahold of to make sure that _that_ _doesn't_ _happen_.'
[The Legendary] Foxboy: This arc is made of awesome and win already
[The Legendary] Foxboy: ESPECIALLY if it winds up co=op
[The Legendary] valles: ^_^
[The Legendary] Foxboy: No Arbiter Sands helping out. I'm talking player villains
[The Legendary] valles: So am I, yeah.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Two arcs that open a contact in Pocket D?
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Or giving villains access to Boomtown?
[The Legendary] valles: Maxed-out MM + Defender Buffs = Holy Bombardment, Batman!
[The Legendary] valles: I'm not sure.
[The Legendary] valles: I'd favor treating 'Old Boom' as a completely seperate zone,a ccessed a la the PVP zones.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: It might be fun to see an OLD PARAGON set.
[The Legendary] valles: With blueside being recruited by the FP and reds being shanhaied by Aracnos.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Like, KR in its heyday
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Shiny, busy KR if you can picture it
[The Legendary] valles: Model Ts in the streets.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: Steel Canyon... still under construction
[The Legendary] valles: It sounds cool as hell, yeah.
[The Legendary] Foxboy: But poor Jay and War Witch
[The Legendary] valles: But... I'd wanna see how the quieter WWII Boomtown arc plays out with players before I committed tos uggesting all that work, y'know?
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