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In-game advertising coming to City of Heroes - Kokuten - 04-03-2008 No more Crey billboards, if you like.. Official Forum thread here press release here CoH statement here I believe I will be setting this option to 'on'. Quote:Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979 - Bob Schroeck - 04-03-2008 Mm. I find myself of two minds about this. My knee-jerk anti-ad reaction, which I suspect may be pretty much universal, and the reaction I bet at least someone at NCSoft is hoping for, which is that it will add verisimilitude to the game world if the ads are real. This is of course based on the assumptions that a) they stay on billboards and b) we don't start seeing more billboards in a zone than there are Skulls & Hellions in Perez Park. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - Ankhani - 04-03-2008 In-game Ads are a plausible component given the modern setting in a megalopolis or Paragon, as it -is- likely that there would be ads there, but so long as we don't see (m)any more billboards, and/or they don't become obtrusive such as the 'Newsie' NPCs in front of the trams shouting out ads or some such, I do not believe this is a evil-doom-sinister plan. I do not know of the current budget of NCSoft, but a little padding in the income is useful, if they keep the ads as unobtrusive as the billboards are right now. --- The Master said: "It is all in vain! I have never yet seen a man who can perceive his own faults and bring the charge home against himself." >Analects: Book V, Chaper XXVI - Foxboy - 04-03-2008 And let's not forget the number of "your ad here" billboards in the Isles... The only problem will be getting the sponsors to let the billboards be grungy redside to fit. Bright Shiny Coke billboard in Port Oakes might not quite work all that well. Might be kinda fun of they have a group of npcs washing the billboards saying "Can't let... sponsors... DOWN!" ''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.'' -- James Nicoll - Sweno - 04-04-2008 One thing I liked about the ads is that it added another level of immersion. Billboards for blackwell and crey served to further the idea of them being massive corporate powers with public facades to uphold. If they are replaced by Nike and Gatorade ads, something is lost. As others have mentioned, they generally fit with the color scheme of the game as well. you don't get bright attention grabbing ads redside. I'm willing to give it a shot, but won't tolerate something that yanks me out of the immersive experience. -Terry ----- "so listen up boy, or pornography starring your mother will be the second worst thing to happen to you today" TF2: Spy - Morganite - 04-04-2008 Hmmm. As long as it's not really "no more", I have no problems with this. But they should keep some of the in-setting ads for the flavor and humor. It's not like they'd really get in your way. Or are out of place for the world. -Morgan. - Foxboy - 04-04-2008 Right I'm perfectly okay with Coke, Pepsi, or Red Bull replacing the "Red Beast" ads, and some of the Vanguard ads are creepy and not at all obvious what they're for when you get down to it. ''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.'' -- James Nicoll - Matrix Dragon - 04-04-2008 If there are Red Bull ads, it needs to have the 'Gives you wings!' motto. And underneath, in smaller writing: "Red Bull is not a Costume Recipe and will not cause Mutation origins. The phrase 'Give You Wings' is a figure of speech. To gain wings, please use Costume Recipes or unlock Veteran Rewards." - Acyl - 04-04-2008 I'm betting the name is taken on all servers, but I so wanna roll a hooved and horned bright red huge male character, with the hammer-and-sickle chest logo...and wings! As a Kinetics character, for SPEED BOOST. -- Acyl - jpub - 04-04-2008 I'll tell you my real concern. Hellgate: London has ads. It also has some sort of spyware that tells it how to customize ads for *you*. I'm okay with ads, not with spyware. - Bob Schroeck - 04-04-2008 Mm. If COH pulls that kind of schtick, I'll be dropping my subscription just as fast as I can type up an email explaining why. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - ECSNorway - 04-04-2008 There's also a lot of cute 'character spot' ads that add verisimilitude, like the 'City of Gyros' restaurant chain. Would not care to see those disappear. -- Sucrose Octanitrate. Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode. - Sofaspud - 04-04-2008 I'm not sure you can call what Hellgate: London does as installing 'spyware', per se. It's certainly uncool, but it does not appear to run when the game is not running, does not involve bypassing your machine's security in any way, and tells you up-front (if you read the EULA) what it's doing. In other words, it's not being deceptive about it. What they do with the data they gather is, unfortunately, less than clear, but its no more information than NCSoft or Blizzard (for example) already have on their subscribers. It's not sending your personal files back to the Hellgate servers, or scanning your machine for credit card numbers or passwords to secure sites. It apparently does scan the memory space and basic hardware details... which can be argued to be necessary to prevent cheating -- Steam is a particularly good (or bad) example of this. But again, it's up-front about it and tells you what it's doing, and does not do it when you're not actively using the software (the game) that it comes with. I think the big brouhaha is that the EULA wording is particularly broad in this case, AND the information it admits to actively gathering can be used to construct personal 'dossiers', if you will, that uniquely identify the individual. Which is naughty, but it's not the same level of naughtiness as true spyware usually entails... if for no other reason than that it only runs when you activate it yourself (by logging into the game). (Unless you have information I've missed, that is -- which is entirely possible. If so I'd like to see it. I haven't played HG:L yet... ![]() Anyway, I'd hesitate to call it spyware, or things like it. To my mind, spyware or adware have strong negative connotations (well deserved!) and shouldn't be used except when it's actually true. Now, personally, I'm inclined to give NCSoft the benefit of the doubt and assume their in-game advertising won't use the same method. They've shown a much higher level of respect towards the playerbase than the other publishers out there, at least with regards to CoX. I'm not sure if it's them or the dev team, but as long as that trend holds I'm not going to raise a fuss. Just make sure you read the EULA carefully after the ad launch, right? ![]() --sofaspud --"Listening to your kid is the audio equivalent of a Salvador Dali painting, Spud." --OpMegs |