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OH FRANK MILLER NO. - Evil Midnight Lurker - 11-24-2008 A trailer for The Spirit may be found here, if you dare. Quoth a friend of my fiancee: "Will Eisner's zombie corpse should rise from the grave and eat Frank Miller's flesh in revenge, except even Will Eisner's zombie corpse would be too nice to do something like that." --Sam "What? The Spirit isn't about whores." - Bob Schroeck - 11-24-2008 I've never actually read any of The Spirit, so I kind of hesitate to ask what's been screwed up... -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - Foxboy - 11-24-2008 The original Spirit comics were kind of light-hearted "Mystery man" romps. He shared the old Police Comics book with Plastic Man before DC bought both of them. Admittedly, All I've read of the Spirit were short funny bits the creator, Will Eisner, used in his "how to WRITE comics" book, Comics and Sequential Art. He used a lot of visual elements that seem trite and corny now, but were revolutionary at the time. I think the Spirit was the first US comic book to use non-rectangular panels. Sadly the stories ARE a product of their time [the '40s, etc] so there are some embarrassing characters like the Spirit's sidekick, a black boy rendered in then-acceptable fashion. If you get a chance to seek out Comics and Sequential Art, check out his "Hippie Hamlet" sequence. In re what's screwed up... Well, making him that GRIM is a start... It's like Plastic Man being portrayed by John Wayne instead of Jim Carrey. ''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.'' -- James Nicoll - Bob Schroeck - 11-24-2008 Ah. Well, in that case he's become the victim of the post-Batman Begins studio demand for "dark" superheroes, then. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - Kurisu - 11-25-2008 Quote: Evil Midnight Lurker wrote: Your friend's right... He'll need some salt & garlic with a side of brussel sprouts. _____ DEATH is Certain. The hour, Uncertain... - Duane Peters - 11-25-2008 I've read a *lot* of the Sprit comics. My local library has a *huge* collection of comics and graphic novels. The only way, from the trailers I've seen, that this could possibly be *worse*, is if they handed the project to Paul Verhoven instead of Frank Miller. Yes, it is that bad. Frank Miller is making a sequel to Sin City, *not* "The Spirit". Don't waste your money; find the comics instead. - Foxboy - 11-25-2008 Posit: Is it possible that Miller did a decent adaptation, but the studio decided it wanted a "Darker, edgier" trailer to get folks into the theatre? ''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.'' -- James Nicoll - Ebony - 11-25-2008 Possibly, but Miller has been going on record saying that this is his tribute to Will Eisner, who he grew up reading. I don't know, personally; I'm refraining judgement until I see the film. Ebony the Black Dragon http://ebony14.livejournal.com "Good night, and may the Good Lord take a Viking to you." - Epsilon - 11-25-2008 Personally I don't care. If its a good movie, it will be a good movie. The existence, or lack thereof, of an earlier version does not factor into it. If people were't allowed to dramatically change the plot and feel of things they were adapating we would have never gotten Forbidden Planet, which is about my favorite performance of The Tempest ever. ----------------- Epsilon - mephron - 11-28-2008 Quote: Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:My comment was, "One night, Frank Miller will wake up to find the zombie of Will Eisner standing over him. And because it's Will Eisner, he'll just sigh disapprovingly and shamble back out, and Frank will wake up in the morning thinking 'it was a dream!' only to find out that the Zombie Will Eisner actually pulled Frank's head out of Frank's ass."Brazil has decided you're cute. well yeah but - Murmur the Fallen - 11-29-2008 Just read on wikipedia that it also wouldn't have any Ebony White, good old pickaninny child/short adult cab driving sidekick and possibly the only person of african descent in Central City. Oh, if only Hollywood could be true to the source material and include Ebony White in his original incarnation. How respectful of Will Eisner that would be. Tokenism AND a call-back to America's proud minstrel hall traditions. ha ha. In all seriousness, the Spirit movie's tone, as seen from the trailers, is probably not going to be either the comedic, caper romps or the precursors to Contract with God Trilogy urban crime misery stories that the Spirit strip oscillates between. I'm actually somewhat reminded of Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy movie, though neither in a good or bad way. -murmur - mephron - 12-08-2008 You might have missed this in the main Spirit comic listing, as well: Quote: Ebony White in perspectiveBrazil has decided you're cute. - OpMegs - 01-08-2009 Well, it's out, and it apparently sucks. A friend of mine who's a big comics fan posted this review at another forum I frequent: Quote: Well I saw it. It's hard to find the words on how bad this film is. I'll just name off my top five issues I have with--- "Oh, silver blade, forged in the depths of the beyond. Heed my summons and purge those who stand in my way. Lay waste." |