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Another icy problem - Niteflier - 12-23-2008
Got into an accident heading into work today. Ice covered roads, no traction, and a pickup truck in front of me resulted in the front end of my car being
smashed in. Doesn't look pretty, and I've got the pics to prove it. Geez. My first real auto accident. At least no one was harmed.
- Wiregeek - 12-23-2008
awww, man, and you're quite likely to be determined At Fault, my sympathies!
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies
- Bob Schroeck - 12-23-2008
As someone who's suffered two accidents since early November (oh, yeah, I forgot to post that here -- I got rear-ended about 10 days ago), I deeply deeply
sympathize.
-- Bob
---------
Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
- ECSNorway - 12-23-2008
Quote: Wiredgeek wrote:
awww, man, and you're quite likely to be determined At Fault, my sympathies!
In NY, the law says he's automatically at fault. Even if the other driver
deliberately braked to cause an accident.
The assumption is that you should be taking factors such as that into account and maintaining sufficient separation between vehicles, and if you don't,
then you're At Fault.
In the extreme case I mention, the other driver is guilty of several things... but you're STILL At Fault, because you failed to maintain sufficient
separation between vehicles.
NYS insurance laws are, in case you haven't guessed, Fuqued Up. Another one states that the primary contractor on a construction site is liable for all
injuries that take place on the site, regardless of the cause. Even if it was an employee who came in drunk, ignored safety regs, etc, etc, etc. It's your
responsibility to make sure that that doesn't happen.
--
Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
- Niteflier - 12-23-2008
ECSNorway Wrote:In NY, the law says he's automatically at fault.
Well, I was found to be at fault, given a citation for $75. Don't know if Idaho laws are different for that.
Pictures of my poor Altima:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/312 ... a16d_o.jpg]front
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/312 ... 99cb_o.jpg]Passenger side
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/312 ... 5a5e_o.jpg]Under the Hood: passenger
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/312 ... a366_o.jpg]Under the Hood: left
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3292/312 ... 0f49_o.jpg]Under the Hood: center
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/312 ... 23d0_o.jpg]Under the Hood: right
- ECSNorway - 12-23-2008
Ouch. That looks like it's gonna be 'spensive to fix.
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Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
- Star Ranger4 - 12-24-2008
A lot of states are like that, sadly
California is, for one. Cases where you are automaticaly at fault: If you were backing up, if you rear end someone, or if your making a left turn. Doesnt
matter what the other person did, YOUR the one who is at fault.
Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky?
That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry-
NO QUARTER!!!
-- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children
- jpub - 12-24-2008
Most places are like that. The reasoning is this: if you rear-end someone, it's *clearly* because you were following too close (or weren't paying
attention) - if you were following the proper 2-3s gap, you could manuever around him, or break in time. If the roads were icy, then clearly 2-3 wasn't
enough, and you should have given a greater gap.
The only time you get around that is if it's a clear case of insurance fraud - AKA they did it on purpose. And let me tell you, the cops and insurance
companies are *good* at finding that out these days.
Fun tidbits:
-If you have a read-end collision, the #1 thing you want to happen is to be in a pileup - that is, someone behind you read-ends you as well. The
'fault' always flows down to the last person in a pile-up chain.
-If you're pulling out a driveway or parking lot, and someone hits the front of your car, you're at fault, even if you couldn't see them and they
were going too fast.
-If you're backing out of a spot, and someone backs into you, the person who was out the least is at fault, even if they started moving first.