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Ja, -n (^_^) =========== =============================================== "V, did you do something foolish?" "Yes, and it was glorious."
Zounds.
Things are getting /interesting/. Spoilers in white: What the frack is Mia doing in Oriphos???? A bunch of loonies from Yoroiden Samurai Troopers, and Lady Kayura Ohgami? Oh my. Oh me oh my. And Leyna's still around... good. ![[Image: smile.gif]](http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif) -- "Use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of General Zod has been approved." -- Sucrose Octanitrate. Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
Uh huh. I was about as shocked as an Eyrie story has ever had me when I realized just -who- the rest of the Order of the Black Rose -were-... which was about three paragraphs after that first scene with them started.
More. Please, please, more. Ja, -n (Now, if only the Eyrie board didn't start throwing schitzophrenic hissy-fits every time I tried to post, my online life would be just about perfect.) =========== =============================================== "V, did you do something foolish?" "Yes, and it was glorious." 
... All I can say is...
Dao-CHI! ![[Image: roll.gif]](http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/roll.gif) - Grumpy Uncle Gearhead 
much goodness, But I have a feeling I'm missing a lot of context here. I didn't get any of the new references (frown). So if someone would be kind enough to enlighten me please.
(edit): after hitting the eyrie boards I'm off to google 'samurai troopers' whatever that is-Terry ------ "in comes a man in cameo with a american flag, because american flags float around in the wilderness." - Mike Keon Please Remember: People are stupid... Programers are people. -Terry ----- "so listen up boy, or pornography starring your mother will be the second worst thing to happen to you today" TF2: Spy
The proper series title, IIRC, is "Yoroiden Samurai Troopers", and the dub was called "Ronin Warriors"... which is inaccurate from several angles. ^_^; It was on Toonami for a while, years ago.
Ja, -n =========== =============================================== "V, did you do something foolish?" "Yes, and it was glorious."
Samurai Troopers was, more or less, an attempt to recreate Saint Seiya.
..But make it vaguely shoujo at the same time.. It sported some of THE most utterly badass villains of the season when it came out too. Something in the back of my mind is teasing me horribly about some of the other names for characters who attend Ohtori Academy, though. I just can't quite puzzle out WHAT it is. - Grumpy Uncle Gearhead 
Damn good stuff, even if I didn't recognize most of the order of the Black Rose. No, I never saw what's-its-name, "Samurai Troopers" or whatever it was. And is Lady Ohgami supposed to be connected to Ishiro Ohgami of Ishiyama?
Anyone notice the two female leads of Fushigi Yuugi showing up at the end -- as theatre geeks? I wonder if they're throwaways (like most of the Sailor Moon girls in NXE) or if their own divinely-linked destinies are going to kick in? One thing annoys me greatly. I have a "forging-a-sword" scene for the Utena Step already partly written, and now I have to decide whether I want to keep it and risk being accused of copying Gryphon, or toss it out and be completely at a loss, especially for what to do with the cool lead-in I have written for it. -- Bob --------- It's a "magical" land. I think "magical" is ancient Greek for "pain in the butt". -- Bun-Bun, Sluggy Freelance, 11/9/03 Quote:keep it. forging a sword is fairly standard in warrior-comes-into-his-own stories... and as long as you stay away from dwarves and wyvern blood, it should be fairly obvious that you came upon this independently...-Z, Post-reader at Medium ---- If architects built buildings the way programmers write programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization. -Z, Post-reader at Medium ---- If architects built buildings the way programmers write programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization. Quote:Oh, hey, yeah! I did - I'm much, much more of a Fushigi Yuugi fanatic than is probably healthy coming from a straight guy. Besides, those two are my favorite characters from that series, so of course I noticed. All that said, my money's on 'destiny', since, if you'll recall, wasn't Fuu pretty much a throwaway for a long, long time? ^_^ And Techie-Yui and Miaka-the-Actress are just so many different flavors of perfect. Ja, -n =========== =============================================== "V, did you do something foolish?" "Yes, and it was glorious." Quote:Wyvern blood is a maybe. Dwarves? No. Weapon forgings from novels: Darksword trilogy Crystal Shard(the introduction of Drizzit Do'Urden) Belgarath the Sorcerer Secret of the Sixth Magic The First Book of Swords(Wayfinder, Mindsword, etc.) Corum of the Silver Hand trilogy(the sword Traitor) I'm sure there are others. I have not read Eyrie in a long while, so I wouldn't make the connection. -------------------- Tom Mathews aka Disruptor
Or ... if you wanted to do something unusual, you go look at the story of Siegfried. Or the story of the Grasscutter. Or even, if you wanted something a little more modern, the story of Aragorn and Narsil (one of the things that I disagree with Peter Jackson on; it made Aragorn that much more of a badass when he was kicking ass and taking names with a broken sword through the first two books of the trilogy).
Ebony the Black Dragon Senior Editor, Living Room Games http://www.lrgames.com Ebony the Black Dragon http://ebony14.livejournal.com "Good night, and may the Good Lord take a Viking to you."
Okay, okay, I'm convinced. Utena's sword-forging stays in the plot. At least as long as it serves a purpose.
-- Bob --------- It's a "magical" land. I think "magical" is ancient Greek for "pain in the butt". -- Bun-Bun, Sluggy Freelance, 11/9/03
I love how they more or less settled a LOT of quesitons that have been lurking around the edges for a while now... while stirring up all NEW questions for people.
Incidentally, for the afforementioned Utena step.. you might find the following line utterly fascinating. It's from a book by the same guy who wrote Steppenwulf: 'Der Vogel kmpft sich aus dem Ei. Das Ei ist die Welt. Wer geboren werden will, muss eine Welt zerstren. Der Vogel fliegt zu Gott. Der Gott heisst Abraxas.' Demian: The Story of Emil Sinclair's Youth by Hermann Hesse. Found it randomly while wandering Wikipedia... Some utterly FASCINATING quotes in the book that someone had in mind when they were writing Utena, I think. Wikipedia Link to Demian entry. - Grumpy Uncle Gearhead
Yow. Definite parallels:
Quote:Boy, does that sound familiar... And yes, SKU(/RGU) is definitely a bildungsroman, albeit strangely subverted by its ending... I'm going to have to look for this book... Thanks! -- Bob --------- It's a "magical" land. I think "magical" is ancient Greek for "pain in the butt". -- Bun-Bun, Sluggy Freelance, 11/9/03
I would have NEVER spotted it if I hadn't gotten entirely too curious. But I was checking some of the underpinnings of Utena on a lark, since they were stirring parts of other things I had researched in the past... I'd recognized elements of Jung, especially in Mikage's arc, but I was curious about what else they'd slipped in.
Of course, I'm going to have to watch the whole thing again eventually once I've done sufficient rummaging around, just to see where it all works in. I love the comment about hating someone for their containing something you hate about yourself. - Grumpy Uncle Gearhead  Quote:Oddly enough, the first time through I read that as "what else they'd stepped in." I haven't read enough of any of the philosophers mentioned to draw any conclusions or make any refutations, but still... - CD What, you think Samuel L. Jackson isn't going to survive the zombie apocalypse? SERVO: Loook *deeeeply* into my eyes... Tell me, what do you see? CROW: (hypnotized) A twisted man who wants to inflict his pain upon others. " It's crazy to try to spell out all the mega-nooks and hyper-crannies of a Borg contrivance." - Doug Drexler -- "Anko, what you do in your free time is your own choice. Use it wisely. And if you do not use it wisely, make sure you thoroughly enjoy whatever unwise thing you are doing." - HymnOfRagnorok as Orochimaru at SpaceBattles woot Med. Eng., verb, 1st & 3rd pers. prsnt. sg. know, knows
I read a lot.
Maybe too much. I have a terrible habit of picking up the oddest little things from NOWHERE too. - Grumpy Uncle Gearhead 
...Saionji plots to steal Akio's best and brightest right out from under his nose. Neato.
Bob, you should definitely check out Samurai Troopers (or even Ronin Warriors) if you ever get the chance and the time. It was one helluva ride, and an excellent example of the Armor Boy genre. Quote:Incorrect. In the books, Narsil was reforged into Anduril before the Fellowship set out from Rivendell. --Sam "I weave a lethal net of baked goods that few can escape." Quote:This is very true. But, and this may be me misremembering, Aragorn was carrying and using Narsil in combat before the Fellowship left the Last Homely House. It has been many years since I've cracked the original books, so I may be incorrect. I already got the names backwards. (I thought it was Narsil post-reforging and Anduril when it was broken.) EbonyEbony the Black Dragon Senior Editor, Living Room Games http://www.lrgames.com Ebony the Black Dragon http://ebony14.livejournal.com "Good night, and may the Good Lord take a Viking to you."
He was definitely carrying it, re: the flamboyant brandishing scene in the Prancing Pony, but I can't recall whether or not he used it in combat. I'll check sometime.
--Sam "I hate broccoli. And yet, I am broccoli."  Quote: Also, to further support that, one of the tracks in the SKU soundtrack is, iirc Densetsu no kami wa abraxas, or some similar title. "This hand of mine glows with an awesome power. Its burning grip tells me to defeat you.... Shining FINGER!" -Domon Kashuu, Mobile Fighter G Gundam
Legend - The God's Name Is Abraxas
It's the song played during the council's elevator ride & speech. - Grumpy Uncle Gearhead
Well, that's pretty definitive, don't you think?
-- Bob --------- It's a "magical" land. I think "magical" is ancient Greek for "pain in the butt". -- Bun-Bun, Sluggy Freelance, 11/9/03 |
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