All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXXI

[GethN7]

Since I'm editing the main work template, and we don't want to do that very often: How would we feel about changing the way that the Source tab works?  I've come around to thinking that we should perhaps not host source content at all, for a few reasons:
* Searching for some terms comes up with almost entirely Source subpages, making it harder to search the main wiki content
** Moving source to a different namespace would solve it, but make our normal pages slightly more expensive to load
* We're really not maintaining or improving source pages
* WikiSource exists, which handles all of the copyright notices, as well as having generally more readable text
** Compare their Alice to our Alice, for instance -- you can link to individual pages in their version, but not in ours
* It doesn't handle film and video at all, currently.  JustWatch exists, and we can point to them.  The same goes for a youtube source, if we know it.
* Some short sources, like poems, would be better off inlined on the work page itself

I know people like the idea of hosting something TVT doesn't, but would we be willing to make some changes here?

Sorry I didn’t get around to replying earlier. This seems reasonable.

Fair enough to me, though I still see no harm in having copies of source documents it's legal to host, though I won't fight the majority on this. I also replied to our recent party who thinks copyright laws are fun suggestions:

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Topic:Yrs8...9395oyfpup

I also support handing Fortossai their VIP card.

[MilkmanConspiracy]

Another option for source might be to simply link to items in the file namespace - This clears up the casual search issue, while maintaining functionality. For files hosted on commons, this also has other maintenance related benefits.

[Bob Schroeck]

Geth, can you please check the history for the Live Action TV and Films subpages of TVT's Bottle Episode? We have a an edit waiting in Moderation from a user named "Diary" which has language close enough to TVT's that I'm inclined to reject it as plagiarism, but I just want to eliminate any obvious dual-posting.

[Bob Schroeck]

Also, can someone please confirm that TVT has banned Real Life examples from "Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking"? The page itself has none, but doesn't explicitly say they're forbidden; I can't find any TVT forum threads about it through Google, and of course its history is denied me because I'm not a registered member. I ask because we have a queued edit adding the relevant category to our "real life" subpage.

[GethN7]

Geth, can you please check the history for the Live Action TV and Films subpages of TVT's Bottle Episode?  We have a an edit waiting in Moderation from a user named "Diary" which has language close enough to TVT's that I'm inclined to reject it as plagiarism, but I just want to eliminate any obvious dual-posting.

Checked, edits match up to a Troper named "47to74", not exact, but pretty close. Unless they are the same person reposting to us, it's plagiarized.

As for the other page, this shows up in page comments

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[Bob Schroeck]

Thank you.