Re: LJ Drama
05-31-2007, 03:26 PM
don't be so hasty to provide credit for LJ, bob.
Barak there fucked up hardcore, then waited HOURS before posting anything at all.
And then he lied about his motivations. The reason this whole storm got started was because WFI, a bunch of high-grade hyperchristian nutjobs, threatened to tell LJ's advertisers that LJ was supporting pedophiles, unless LJ banned the following groups.. (include list of every community with 'incest' or 'rape' in it's interests, from LJ community baby_rapists, all the way over to, oh, let's see.. LJ community _RAINN_.)
this was more than an oops - this was a clear-cut case of blatant and utter stupidity at the highest levels of management, echoed all the way down the ranks, caused by a group of psychopathic extremist jacknuts.
I don't know if I can be a part of LJ after this fiasco.Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979
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Re: LJ Drama
05-31-2007, 06:59 PM
I posted the above link before I read the responses. Berkowitz is being less than responsive to repeated questions by the userbase, usually repeating some variation on "we made a mistake", "you have valid points", and so on, without actually answering anything.
I'm giving LJ credit for realizing they just shot themselves in the foot and trying to undo the damage. But I don't like how Berkowitz is stonewalling on anything beyond his announcement.
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Re: LJ Drama
05-31-2007, 08:26 PM
in excess of _TEN THOUSAND_ comments by LJ users and.. one piece of PR fluff from management.
that's.. interesting numbers.Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979
Re: LJ Drama
05-31-2007, 08:48 PM
LJ gone catatonic for anyone else?Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979
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Re: LJ Drama
06-01-2007, 12:11 AM
There was an Icon someone posted on the second link that I thought was pretty amusing.
It read: "Fuck not with fandom, for Fandom fucks back, and you can forget about lube."
Another read: "Dear LJ: 1984 was not an instruction manual."__________________
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Re: LJ Drama
06-01-2007, 02:06 AM
Dear god, fandom are an histrionic and unforgiving lot.
It's not an easy thing to stand up for the rights of people to post/support fantasies about performing sexual acts on imaginary children. Granting that I strongly believe people should be able to write whatever they want on livejournal, nonetheless this is a understandable situation.
In the end, this entire mess cost, what exactly? A day or two of ability to write in livejournals, for about 500 people, some of which actually were doing something reprehensible and illegal.
Comparisons to 1984 here are... simply ridiculous. Utterly so. Irresponsibly so. As for complaints about "waited hours"...
Is it not possible to accept that perhaps in this case acting hastily would have likely done more damage than hesitating to get a better sense of the situation and what best ought to be done about it?
God knows we can see just how forgiving and understanding many users and fans are of human error.
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Re: LJ Drama
06-01-2007, 06:55 PM
According to the Register, deleted groups have started coming back.
Just in case anyone still cared.
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