The PlotBunny Paddock

[Foxboy]

Free to a good home:
A Naruto otaku fic idea I had at random: The same sort of occurence that caused the central premise of Eric Flint's 1632 happens to Konoha, dropping it into an American suburb in 1992. So we have pre-internet anime fans, etc... and nobody on the American side of things knows anything about Naruto. A major plus is the ability to do a "high school fic" with the canon characters infiltrating "Town Name High School" under the Hokage's orders without necessarily having the fic turn to crap by default. A major bonus if the "real world" focus teen is completely NORMAL. To quote Piers Anthony: a person with "hair-colored hair."
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll

[Sirrocco]

Konoha's a pretty big place, and in spite of the "village hidden in" name, not that well concealed. Even without the internet, the local-time
ability to rapidly pass data and mobilize forces, along with the obvious significance of an Event in geological terms alone could have a whole lot of attention
focused in on the area *very* quickly. That happens almost instantly if you replace a chunk of suburb. It would slow down some if you dropped it into a less
developed area, and potentially could hold off quite a while if you dropped it into effectively untrammeled wilderness (particularly untrammeled wilderness
that was heavily wooded to start with) and gave them enough adapt and react time to get the Genjutsu up before they got noticed.

If you do have the "instant swarm of hornets" effect, that's going to make it a lot harder to infiltrate much of anything for long periods of
time. Ninja are good at infiltration, but there would be basic knowledge that a ninja infiltrator just wouldn't know about our world. they could probably
bluff past it if nobody knew about Konoha, but if "the world has ninja in it now" was a known thing, that suddenly becomes something you can't
laugh off anymore.

Mind you, it's not a bad concept, and might be interesting in execution, but it goes tremendously chaotic very quickly if you don't give the ninja at
least some "adapt and learn" time before they get discovered.

[drakensis]

To get around that (and avoid the prospect of them getting nuked) they could arrive earlier.

What would be the effect on American History of a ninja village appearing somewhere in the Rockies during the early 19th century? The west coast was considered
impossibly remote until the Gold Rush moved a lot of infrastructure out there so there are good chances that no one would notice for a while and quite possibly
not realise that they hadn't always been there.

For added amusement, what if other Hidden Villages appeared? Hidden Mist could be around the Queen Charlotte Isles, Hidden Sand in the deserts of the
south-west, Hidden Rock high in the mountains, Hidden Cloud somewhere near San Francisco Bay and Hidden Leaf near Seattle. Then the Gold Rush hits and all of a
sudden the villages aren't so Hidden.
D for Drakensis

You're only young once, but immaturity is forever.

[Bob Schroeck]

Okay, my imagination just took a horrible left-turn. Say we follow Drakensis' suggestion... hidden ninja villages in the American West. I just had the image of a crossover with Bonanza, where Hop Sing is in fact a ninja...
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

[robkelk]

I thought of a different Western: Kung Fu

Unless David Carradine gets to play Naruto, that is...

 
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

[Shepherd]

Oddly enough, if Konoha were to drop into the modern world, America may be the best place. We've got a few really freaking big national forests, I doubt
that the spy satellites are looking at our national forests nearly as closely as they are other locations in the world, and America has some of the weakest
internal security of any major industrialized nation (you can theoretically wander from one side of the country to another without ever having to show ID or
even being legally required to carry any).
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"Anyone can be a winner if their definition of victory is flexible enough." - The DM of the Rings XXXV

[Foxboy]

So for modern day, Vermont's Green Mountain National Forest or Yellowstone might be good places to drop Konoha for a combination of "who cares"
and "WTF? We has Ninja?"

This is mainly for, as I said, an attempt at a not cringe-inducing high-school fic. That's not to say the Cowboy/Ninja dynamic isn't interesting as
well, I just don't have enough "serious" knowledge of westerns to do it justice.

Add Sasuke's angst at having the curse seal, but no Orochimaru, and Itachi being completely out of reach... Hmm this would likely make Danzo and ROOT the
big antagonistic ninja baddies. Picking a timeframe from the manga to drop in its weird place is critical as well. Post Chunin Exam, perhaps with Tsunade as
recently installed Hokage, nd Jiraya's "research resort" being in the range of effect.

Hm. Language difficulties until the Yamanaka use their bloodline to try to pick up english... And common conversations the ninja have, even if it's in
plain Japanese, are likely to be beyond the scope of most folks wherever they drop, since Japanese speakers are more common in Urban areas, and the folks in
the Boonies/'burbs who speak Japanese are likely at the "Where's The Bathroom? I don't Speak Japanese" stage of learning.
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll

[Bob Schroeck]

I thought of a different Western: Kung Fu

I dunno, that one's a bit too obvious.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

[WengFook]

guys guys guys... I just have to say... What if Mount Rushmore is a real Hokage Monument?
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Take Your Candle, Go Light Your World.

[robkelk]

and America has some of the weakest internal security of any major industrialized nation (you can theoretically wander from one side of the country to another without ever having to show ID or even being legally required to carry any).

Er... Have you tried to board an aircraft in the US lately? Or use a non-US credit card in the US? (And have you heard of the Real ID Act of 2005, Public Law 109-13, which comes into force in May of this year?)

I suppose if the ninja went everywhere on foot, camped out, and literally lived off the land, they wouldn't need ID...

 
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

[ECSNorway]

The big things that will alert the authorities and/or be difficult to do without some... extralegal effort:

1) Air travel anywhere within the US

2) Establishing a bank account (duh)

3) Getting a mundane job

4) Accepting mission charges in non-cash form

5) Purchasing anything by mail-order/phone/internet

6) Large cash purchases (land, car, etc)

If you can avoid those, you can avoid most official notice.

I suggest moving to Nevada...
--
Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.

[Sirrocco]

You could actually drop it into a sufficiently large national forest pretty effectively - and once you did, the only thing you'd really have to worry about
would be things like random curious people with Google Earth. How big is Konoha's footprint from the sky? How much smaller could the village make it once
they realized that it was an avenue of discovery?

Other random thoughts...

- Does it have to by the contiguous 48? There's a *lot* of space to hide out in up in Alaska. Sure, it gets a mite chilly up there, but.... (Actually, I
think it might add something to the experience - show up sometime at the end of May, say, suffer from the cold, and then realize that it's going to get
*worse*.)

- For other random western-ish crossovers - Shanghai Knights.

- Other timespots. If we wanted to have an explanation for the warpage that wasn't entirely arbitrry as far as the characters are concerned... well,
binding the Kyuubi might have had any number of bizarre side-effects. Better still, have it kick in as someone's idea of a highly experimental superdefense
jutsu just as the Sand/Sound invasion is kicking off. Combining that with the Alaska concept, and you suddenly have some *very* unhappy sandies. It also gives
some interesting diplomatic stuff to run with out in the middle of nowhere before people start finding out what's really going on and interacting with the
outside world. You could also get the scene where Orochimaru decides to take over an uptime city - these aren't even *ninja* after all, and after he
conquers one of their villages, he can integrate their new technology and become powerful enough to come back and *really* show Konoha who's boss. So...
the world's introduction to True Ninja is news footage of a guy riding around on a truly enormous snake, laying waste while a small horde of lesser ninja
do impossible things in support. It's actually going pretty well for Orochimaru - until a normal, everyday man, with no more chakra than any other civilian
and only a moderately well-honed killer intent picks up his SWAT-issue sniper rifle and ends the guy. Cue "Wait. Wait. What???" from *both* sides of
the time-divide, and everybody becoming just a little more... tense.

[yesilmavi]

Ooh nice idea's.

Some idea's of mine:

Konoha dissapears due to:

a) Jiraiya tries to disrupt that unbreakable barrier at the chunin exam (with seals)

b) Naruto tries to disrupt that unbreakable barrier at the chunin exam (Kyuubi power, or learning seals in the month for the exam)

c) Fox is harry potter*, and wants to return home

d) the extraction process of the aketsuku goes a bit wrong when Naruto makes it back to Konoha/other village before the extraction is completed.

-not the entire village goes, or only most of the village, leaving a large amount of sound/powerful leaf ninja out or reverse,

they try to investigate and go where their village/leader is.

-After Konoha disappears the sand village follow with those leaf nin. "

- Other village's research this ultimate defense jutsu and the mist nin's village disappears as well during an attack.

Some other places Konoha/sand village can come:

- Mexico.

- An island somewhere (a new one )

- (potter crossover) some unplottable land.

- instead of replacing, it pushes the surrounding land. -> earthquake / major wave/ storm / vulcano's

and while that's is happening around them they have a period of time where the outside world is focusing on that.

For high school crossovers:

1) Clone o'neil is in the school they infiltrate

2) Buffy.

3) potter, (i think there was a short that did gave a similar premise/start for this. Along the lines of the ninja world being some wizardry artefact and
konoha getting access to the wizarding world)

*from that other thread

[Shepherd]

Here are a few random thoughts on the Konoha transport concept:

The entire village doesn't get moved, only the Hokage's tower. Enemy ninja acted to decapitate the village by removing the center of government using a
reverse summoning jutsu.

The tower is trapped in nonspace until somebody tries to free it by performing their own reverse summoning while concentrating on the Hokage monument. The
tower reappears in sight of Mt. Rushmore.

Who is in the tower?

The Hokage can't be there as that would leave the chain of command obvious, which would eliminate much of the dramatic tension. Perhaps somebody threw the
Hokage to safety just before the reverse summoning took effect.

Kurenai has to be there to keep the tower covered in genjutsu, and cannot wind up in charge because she has to spend most of her time and effort maintaining
the effect.

Ebisu must be there with the Konohamaru Corps for comedic effect and annoying personalities (much like a reality T.V. series).

Shizune should be there for her medical knowledge.

Most of the rookie genin should be there.

If the genin wind up gathering info at a local school, it will be interesting to see how Sakura reacts to being a poor student (has trouble writing the
language and understands little of the subject matter) while being looked down upon as a weird delinquent (she apparently uses punkish pink hair dye). Her
reaction the first time she gets goaded into a fight will further cement her reputation as a bad girl (and don't even get started on the rumors that would
spread if, while changing for swim class, the other girls learn just how thorough she is with the 'dye').

It would also be interesting for a school counselor to suggest to Naruto's guardian that the boy has an obvious case of Attention Deficit
Syndrome/Hyperactivity Disorder.

The Konohamaru Corps could provide another story thread by windign up in grade school.
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"Anyone can be a winner if their definition of victory is flexible enough." - The DM of the Rings XXXV

[Valles]

Tangentially related to the transplant idea...

What if the doubtless-destined-to-burn-and-the-sooner-the-better soul behind the transplantation of the island of Nantucket into umpty-ump thousand BC...

...were concerned about the consequences of the survival of a major mass-weapon-using society for Midchildia?
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"V, did you do something foolish?"
"Yes, and it was glorious."

[kentmagus]

A bunny coming from the True Ninja crack.

Real ninja would be offended. Not by being labeled as false ninja, since there's no such thing as ninja, but by the fact that the Hidden Village would be
opening for missions and thereby stealing clients from their actual village.

[Kokuten]

- Does it have to by the contiguous 48? There's a *lot* of space to hide out in up in Alaska. Sure, it gets a mite chilly up there, but.... (Actually, I think it might add something to the experience - show up sometime at the end of May, say, suffer from the cold, and then realize that it's going to get *worse*.)

Nitbunny - September would be better for this, as May is followed by June, July, and August, which are 'summer' months. The end of September _can_ see the first snow, and the first subzero temperatures..

And then there's october, cold and dry, and November, a strange break, and December, a variable. January and February are frozen solid, with occasional weirdness..Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979