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Crossovers that Should not be: Welcome to the next level.
 
#76
This one just jumped out at me...

For the next team, Iruka shuddered with dread. Two severe introverts, a boy and a girl each, and a girl with a severe superiority complex. To top it all off,
they had historically not gotten along very well. Odd that they seemed to stick together anyways. "...Team 11: Ikari Shinji, Asuka Langley-Shoryu, and
Ayanami Rei."

Yeah, they not only get sent back, but sideways as well for a bit of team building. Wink
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#77
Quote: blackaeronaut wrote:

This one just jumped out at me...




For the next team, Iruka shuddered with dread. Two severe introverts, a boy and a girl each, and a girl with a severe superiority complex. To top it all off,
they had historically not gotten along very well. Odd that they seemed to stick together anyways. "...Team 11: Ikari Shinji, Asuka Langley-Shoryu, and
Ayanami Rei."




Yeah, they not only get sent back, but sideways as well for a bit of team building. Wink

This has been done. Though sadly the fic never got anywhere because it was quite good.

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Epsilon
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#78
Quote: Epsilon wrote:


Quote: blackaeronaut wrote:

This one just jumped out at me...




For the next team, Iruka shuddered with dread. Two severe introverts, a boy and a girl each, and a girl with a severe superiority complex. To top it all
off, they had historically not gotten along very well. Odd that they seemed to stick together anyways. "...Team 11: Ikari Shinji, Asuka
Langley-Shoryu, and Ayanami Rei."




Yeah, they not only get sent back, but sideways as well for a bit of team building. Wink


This has been done. Though sadly the fic never got anywhere because it was quite good.




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Epsilon


Pity.
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#79
Jinx999 Wrote:Harry Potter has black hair and green eyes.
There's another fictional character with black hair and green eyes.
Corwin of Amber.

I distinctly remember a fic (it was a megacross with the basis that each universe was a shadow of Amber) where Harry was adopted by Corwin.
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#80
I had a should not be moment, although im toying with the idea of writing it anyways.

It was inspired by the recent meme of the BSG refugee fleet getting to some fictional earth that comes as a rood shock.

What if they got to the earth of Ghost in the Shell?

The only problem is I am drawing a large blank about what kind of or even if that setting HAS any kind of space or extra-planetary assets.
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#81
Last one I read she said something about going to the moon I think. They have satellite capability, and surely hunter/killer satellites.

BSG and Appleseed for a comparison How long would it take them to figure out that over half the population is Artificial.
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#82
It has suddenly popped into my head that a Gunslinger Girl / Noir crossover could be fun in a "armed nuclear warheads are fun" sense.

But I should probably finish Noir before trying to figure out just how this might work.
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#83
Considering from what I've heard of Noir its mistitled... Except for 2 episodes (one of which was refered The Mad Teaparty) the series is know as Snore...
and the other is a depressing thing about an insane lollicon obsessed black ops group (I mean the penalty for growing clevage is effectively death), it would
go one of two ways. 1) they both be after the same target... run across each other and after a shootout or Mexican stand off conclusde they both had the same
target and leave each other out of it (or battle away from each other)... or 2) one of the GSGs would realize they'd live long enough to grow clevage and
it would be all about escaaping the lollicons. It would likely end badly without a random third series to screw things up angstwise.
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#84
Quote: Necratoid wrote:

Considering from what I've heard of Noir its mistitled... Except for 2 episodes (one of which was refered The Mad Teaparty) the series is know as
Snore... and the other is a depressing thing about an insane lollicon obsessed black ops group (I mean the penalty for growing clevage is effectively death),
it would go one of two ways. 1) they both be after the same target... run across each other and after a shootout or Mexican stand off conclusde they both had
the same target and leave each other out of it (or battle away from each other)... or 2) one of the GSGs would realize they'd live long enough to grow
clevage and it would be all about escaaping the lollicons. It would likely end badly without a random third series to screw things up angstwise.
Well, unless it comes up post volume six of the manga, the Social Welfare Agency (the black ops group of Gunslinger Girl) doesn't actually
have a policy of killing the cyborgs that get too old. Rather they just aren't likely to survive long enough for it to matter. But based on what is shown
in the series they wouldn't kill the girls for getting too old. They would look at whether they were still effective in their job, if so then great, keep
killing mafioso. If not, then they would be transfered to the R&D division to test new gear and drugs. It's actually a good series. The SWA has major
problems, but the writing doesn't ignore that. The manga even more than the anime has several of the adult agents worry over just what they're doing.
The see it in shades of grey and wish it was black and white.

Noir I've seen a bit less than half of which still appears to leave a heck of a lot of mysteries. Enough to tell that there is some sort of conspiracy
going on which may or may not have some connections to the mafia (I'm suspecting the conspiracy using the mafia rather than the other way around) -- which
would put it on a collision course with the SWA since that group was aimed mostly at the mafia and terrorists.

My guess is that if you had both go after the same target at the same time you would have a short stand off, cautious withdraw, and then a period of tension as
both sides tried to figure out just who they ran into and what the other sides goals were. Just exactly what is revealed about the conspiracy in Noir and what
the SWA was able to figure out would play a large roll in what happens next.
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#85
*Smacks Lilfluff upside Lilfluff's fool head with a rolled of newspaper* Don't mock me with the repeating everything I say trick... seriously its the
post directly above yours... why did you do a full quote instead of just posting an answer? Is your attention span that short?

In actual response... from the little I've seen they just slap more and more chemicals and such into them if they aren't likely to get killed off...
this overclocks their system to the point it just wears out and they die.
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#86
Well to be fair to gunslinger girl, for an experimantal, illegal, top-secret medical procedure it works remarkably well and you can get a few years of work out
of them before the sideeffects reach a fatal level, this makes it about on par with a lung or intestine transplant, a little worse, but then the procedure does
seem a tad more invasive and there is no way a single italian black ops program gets more funding that organ transplantation research.

Add to that the girls ussualy get shot at and have other risk factors, a three year avarage lifespan in the organisation is a miracle.

It even makes some sense to only have prepubescent girls considering they are mucking around with the brain, and brain chemistry does undergo changes during
puberty, and the brains of boys and girls do have some differences. sure it is a handwave, but not an outragues one.

I imagine escaping from the organization would lead to a swift and painfull death as the girl starts undergoing withdrawal for all the drugs they where on and
start suffering from the effects that the drugs where supposed to suppress, such as anti-rejection drugs.

And in Noir's defense, I like it so it must be good, since my taste is impeccable. You may now grovel before me mortal. Wink

As for how to cross the two over, well;

1) Noir are technically criminals, possibly terrorist considering some of the shenanigans they pull, the GG's might be sent in to stop them in the
permanent fashion.

2) A former handler might be sufficiently disgusted by what goes on that he hires Noir to take out critical parts of the organization.

3) They might just run into each other, running gun battles as happen in both series are not exactly subtle and if one was going on nearby both Noir and the GG
would of course be involved.
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
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#87
Having watched both series several times I can easily see the two worlds colliding.

I just have a hard time seeing how they would meet in a way that would end in anything but a blood bath.
-Terry
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#88
Hey, watch out or I'll sic my namesake character on you. After he finished yelling at me for excessive quoting he would still probably prank you. So :p
Seriously, I just hit the wrong button (quote instead of reply) and it slipped my notice.
There is one cyborg in Gunslinger Girl who almost never goes on a mission. She's been more or less turned over to R&D. And curiously she's probably one of the better mentally adjusted of the girls. [snips a big chunk of text better meant for a more conversation oriented thread]

I am probably intrigued in large part due to taking part in an ongoing GSG based RPG. I've been enjoying my series of cyborgs and handlers. The girl who hoped to grow up and become a handler (and instead after surviving a point blank machine pistol headshot became the somewhat insane assistant to the SWA chief). The first boy to be made a cyborg who wanted to be both a knight protecting the girls and a doctor. And the newest a girl who makes came out of the initial conditioning process a touch cruel ("Forget the justification. You want someone dead. I want to break things. Handy coincidence, yes?"), okay, more than a touch cruel.
Bringing up the RPG isn't off topic for one reason. We're using Unisystem to run it, the same set of rules used for the zombie RPG All Flesh Must Be Eaten. Gunsliger Girls vs. Zombies. The in game 'SWA Cyborg' package is just sick (full maxed out Hard to Kill, Fast Reaction Time, Nerves of Steel, and Situational Awareness qualities, although balanced some by the negative qualities like full Amnesia prior to conversion, and an Emotional Dependency on the handler). But there isn't really anything in that package that doesn't seem to have justification by whats in the anime and manga.
A group of SWA cyborgs might just be a perfect anti-zombie swat team. Small but strong, fast, great reflexes, and they can keep fighting even after traumatic and painful injuries. Arguably they might even have a degree of resistance to bite transmitted zombie disease. There's just the question of whether the public might view the SWA and cyborgs as being just as monstrous. "That girl made nine headshots in a row, and then took on the remaining zombies with a pair of hatchets. That just aint natural!"
If there were some excuse for why they were in London, a GSG/Shaun of the Dead might be amusing. Wait, I can't remember, was the outbreak in Shaun of the Dead worldwide?
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#89
Quote: LilFluff wrote:

If there were some excuse for why they were in London, a GSG/Shaun of the Dead might be amusing. Wait, I can't remember, was the outbreak in Shaun of
the Dead worldwide?

I don't think so. It's been awhile since I've seen it, but I remember there being a brief news blurb in the background while Shaun was at the
corner store about a mysterious meteor that landed in England somewhere.
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"And that must have caused my dad's brain to break in half, replaced by a purely mechanical engine of revenge!"
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#90
So by picking prepubescent girls to start this kind of experiment on in the first place... they pretty much need to to kill them at the point they grow
cleavage. Changing the chemical formula would require far too much effort and variation on too frequent a basis to be economically worthwhile to a black ops
group. The experiment is designed to inflict killer lollis on people... if you have cleavage... you aren't a lolli. They may not have intended it that
way... but the effect is the same. One way or the other... cleavage equals death. That said...

I think you'd get more mileage out of a GSGs/Black lagoon crossover... I mean Rock tried to save the Vampire Twins... The GSG look normal by comparison...
SotD is too easy there... just have Shaun go to Itali for his honeymoon and drop another space rock. Two or three days traveling and ignoring the (not in
English) news and you can just drop him off in the same hotel... for bonus points have the Black Lagoon crew their dropping off some of the chemicals need for
the GSGs... and meeting in the same hotel. More bonus points if you somehow have Shaun and wife faking being zombies and have to scramble out of the way when
the start hosing them down... which eventually leads to Shaun yelling at them and explaining that 'Yes, he was acting and yes that does work on them'.

If you don't play around with it... a SotD/GSG xcross over is them taking careful head shots till they run out zombies or ammo. SotD zombies aren't
actually that dangerous if you have a gun. HtH is iffy... they can rip you apart literally in groups.. they are sloooww. unless they get the drop on you in
close quarters they aren't that dangerous to an armed aware opponent. Unless you have them keep seeing Shaun is inexplicablely alive and they've lost
troops... the zomibes are kind of useless verses GSGs.
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#91
Lelouch vi Britania vs Funshine Bear, round 2... Fight!
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
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#92
Quote: CattyNebulart wrote:

Lelouch vi Britania vs Funshine Bear, round 2... Fight!
*Shatters*

Of course, if you want to really get carried away, you should have made it Barney or the Teletubbies.

One thing you had to give props to the Carebears for: they actually had baddies to fight, implying that there's a few bad people in the world, and
sometimes you just have to do something about them.
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#93
I assume... or rather, I hope... nobody's tried telling any stories about the "happy" couple of Light and Misa. Pixy Misa, that is.
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"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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#94
..."Play it again, Pretty Sammy"?
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#95
Not only did the Carebears have enemies... they had at least one major big bad... I think it was Dark Heart... he was in one of the movies and literally
captured all but one of the Carebears and their allies.I may be remembering this wrong... but I think it was implied that the Carebears were captured because
they'd eventually respawn if killed. The Big Bad's major flaw was that he sealed them all in a single breakable chandlier rather than dozens on small
containment units. It has been like 1.5-2 decades sense I'm scene the film.... so I'm a little off here.

In fact, when you think about it the Carebear's main weapon, they have niffy symbol themed item creation abilities and such as well, is the Carebear
Stare...which is a beam of energy that cheer's people up and can cure possession by malignant things. It works better in consert with other Carebear
stares... and the link up ability has an upper limit apparently equal to the number of entities possessing said ability.

Being blasted by this beam has far more in common to being doused in positively charged ectophasm than alignment change/mind control beams... that is a major
bit of specific power their... add in the link up ability and you have a military grade, if specific use, battle mage weapon going. Which means they have to
have versed something in the past work researching this abilities.

I can remember a Big Bad this ability is perfect for to a scary degree. An insanely high level version of such a being as those possession demons. The
Carebear is pretty much the exactly design to fight such a beasty. Able to take down minor possessions... or gang up for major ones. However, the target of
the Stare is not actually drugged out happy or mindlessly gleeful, as most shows would do... the person is happy, but functional afterwards... the Carebears
also seem to have a policy against excessively hosing people down with this attack. They use it relatively responsibly.

Even though my knowledge of the Carebears is faded with time I think there is an actual solid case to be made that the Carebears are actually celistial beings
in the In Nomineverse specifically design to fight against Legion should it rise again.
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#96
So they're all Cherubs of Christopher?
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
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#97
Not sure what that would entail... and the Wiki fails to help with Christopher... According to the Wiki "Cherubim can resonate to a person, object, or
place within the Symphony"... As the Carebears are not protecting or really focusing on one person for any longer than a day or two... I'd say
Cherubs doesn't really fit... They are too fickle.

Elohim kind of work with this... they are obsessed with emotions that cause old school sloth. By old school I mean before sloth because laziness.... it
isn't. Its depression, not caring... complete lack of Faith in God or much else really. Sloth was two sins originally, Deep depression and lack of
faith. Carebears aren't Elohim and definitely have active emotions.

Though they do look like strangely anthropomorphic Cherubs without wings.... If you think about it, a Carebear (or that other group with all the other animals
in it) is a physical cross between an elohim and a cherub. They the animal bodies of a cherub and the lack of wings, big eyes, and androgenus humaniod bodies
of a elohim... in attitude are attuned to an emotion (which is basically what cherubs do but not, and kind of what like an elohim, but not) and protect
against slothiness. So I'd say that Carebears are crossbreeds/fusions of Elohim and Cherubs.

However they aren't a choir... not really. They are like Malakim in that they are created because of one specific event... only it wasn't the Fall it
was it was the Legion incident that created them. They also have no external superior as one could be corrupted by another Legion. They live in those cloud
lands because Heaven is kinda disturbed by them. Also, the Malakim have at least a gruding respect for them.

Shedim live in mortal terror of Carebears... if one sees a Carebear, and knows what it is... standard protocal is to run screaming in the other direction with
all your parts. The Carebear Stare is designed to blast forces off a Legion and protect things from being possessed by one... if the Stare hits you, a Shedim,
your going to lose forces. They get a save for reducing damage... and to dodge, but your going to be screwed if it hits you. If multiple are there... your
going to be shreaded out of existance. The Carebears have taken a stance of 'kill on sight' with Shedim less another legion arrive.

The second group that would be against Carebears, if they could be bothered to care or anything, are Djinn. If a Carebear Stare nails a Djinn it can force
them to care... which means dissonance at best... conversion to Carebear (or Care-whatever-animal-your-form-is). The most powerful convert is Grumpy bear...
who is the only know entity to ever manage to keep not caring, much, through the conversion process. He shouldn't even be possible... they know he has to
have oodles of forces... and rumor has it he absorbs all the forces blasted off Shedim. As no one can actually recall a Djinn that powerful gone missing...
rumours abound.
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#98
*Giggles wickedly* This could be one of those truly rare fics of saccharine-but-awesome.

Oh, funny thought: the Caretaker could be a played-down aspect of the Almighty. Think about it. It FITS.
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#99
As in something like George Burns as God? Yeah I can see it.
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
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Quote:So I'd say that Carebears are crossbreeds/fusions of Elohim and Cherubs.

A minor Choir, perhaps, similar to how Blandine has her Menunim? Christopher's relatively new at being an Archangel, but there's no reason why he couldn't have created a new minor Choir of his own already.

(looks at the description of Christopher in Revelations 1: Night Music) This would also explain why the Carebears' "make somebody happy" Attunement doesn't match any of Christopher's other Choir Attunements.

Oh, yes - Necratoid, do you mind if I re-post your posts, with attribution, to the In Nomine forum on the SJGames website? I'm sure the regulars there would find them as interesting as I do.
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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