Prime's size/power class would most likely be Ultramagnus, the four land based Dinobots, maybe Jetfire... all of which are heavy hitters. In terms of raw
power the Dinobot outclass Prime... they actually disengage Unicron as it quickly occures to Grimlock that while they can smack Unicron around and likely
win... it will directly result in Cybertron being a planet sized scrapheap and mass grave. Unicron's face after the Dinobots sucker punch him in the
equivalent of kidneys is priceless. The thing is Prime has a literal few million years of combat experience on them. Prime also has a taste for politics. At
one point the hyper upgraded Frimlocks intelligence and he was miserable. He ended up draining his own hyper intelligence and dumping it in the combiner he
made, Computron.
Now if we don't just have Prime empty the Matrix into the Kyuubi, instead of bribing the Shingami to stuff it into a newborn's bellybutton or
sacrifising the charge on the Matrix to bribe the Shingami into doing something useful, The MoL is only good for three things. 1. Upgrading the guy holding it
into a Prime, 2) Seaking a vision quest counsil of advise with past primes, and 3) one shot Omega beam spam... at which point it ends up drained for like EVER.
The Matrix is basically the aterlife for Transformers. You die and your spark goes into it or is gone forever. Starscream and the physical manifestation of
Worse Idea EVER Rampage excluded. Its power source is raw information basically. It takes at least hundreds of thousands of years or something and hoards of
dead transformers to recharge the thing... wenll until the humans got involved and fed it the internets, civilian and military. That is if it didn't take
millions of years to charge the first time. I'm not clear on that point.
Now if you consider that its only the top 5-8% of ninja that can ever hope to summon a major Boss Summon in the first place... and they have to get on a
contract after that. Then calculate that it takes signifigantly more chakra to summon the really, really, big guns... the limiting factor is that its
basically impossible to get that much chakra without a hoard of Kage level guys on the same contract or a massive FMA style sacrifice array. The limiting
factor is an impossiblely high chakra requirement.
If we take an arbitrary value from a fanfic, the Kage bushin (singular) takes 500 times as much chakra as a regular bushin. Lets say that includes two copies
of a bushin so 250 chakra to make a shadow clone without leaving it active to do stuff and 1 point of chakra for an academy level clone. Now the mass version
of the Kage bushin is apparently risking lethal drain at 5-10 clones going full out for a few minutes. Mainly because your going to spend 250 chakra points
and at 8 thats 2000 CP then your remaining reserves get spread equally. So lets say another 500 CP for a jonin. Thats 2500 CP at average Jonin, ignoring
price reduction for control ability. Naruto can make 1000 of them and have them spend chakra freely. That means 250,000 points to pull off that initial
summon and even more to power the things for hours (elemental nature training.) This means post time skip we are talking at least a 1,000,000 CP modified by
control. Add in that passively regenerates chakra each round... you get a clear message that Naruto can basically out power the Hoover Dam at that point and
that ignores the red chakra. In other words the requirement is that you must have chakra on par with a minor biju AND be on a summoning contract.
On the otherhand... I get the idea that Naruto summons Fortress doesn't get the headmaster with it.... which means Naruto goes splat and goes off the
strangle the Toad Sannin after his legs unbreak themselves.
power the Dinobot outclass Prime... they actually disengage Unicron as it quickly occures to Grimlock that while they can smack Unicron around and likely
win... it will directly result in Cybertron being a planet sized scrapheap and mass grave. Unicron's face after the Dinobots sucker punch him in the
equivalent of kidneys is priceless. The thing is Prime has a literal few million years of combat experience on them. Prime also has a taste for politics. At
one point the hyper upgraded Frimlocks intelligence and he was miserable. He ended up draining his own hyper intelligence and dumping it in the combiner he
made, Computron.
Now if we don't just have Prime empty the Matrix into the Kyuubi, instead of bribing the Shingami to stuff it into a newborn's bellybutton or
sacrifising the charge on the Matrix to bribe the Shingami into doing something useful, The MoL is only good for three things. 1. Upgrading the guy holding it
into a Prime, 2) Seaking a vision quest counsil of advise with past primes, and 3) one shot Omega beam spam... at which point it ends up drained for like EVER.
The Matrix is basically the aterlife for Transformers. You die and your spark goes into it or is gone forever. Starscream and the physical manifestation of
Worse Idea EVER Rampage excluded. Its power source is raw information basically. It takes at least hundreds of thousands of years or something and hoards of
dead transformers to recharge the thing... wenll until the humans got involved and fed it the internets, civilian and military. That is if it didn't take
millions of years to charge the first time. I'm not clear on that point.
Now if you consider that its only the top 5-8% of ninja that can ever hope to summon a major Boss Summon in the first place... and they have to get on a
contract after that. Then calculate that it takes signifigantly more chakra to summon the really, really, big guns... the limiting factor is that its
basically impossible to get that much chakra without a hoard of Kage level guys on the same contract or a massive FMA style sacrifice array. The limiting
factor is an impossiblely high chakra requirement.
If we take an arbitrary value from a fanfic, the Kage bushin (singular) takes 500 times as much chakra as a regular bushin. Lets say that includes two copies
of a bushin so 250 chakra to make a shadow clone without leaving it active to do stuff and 1 point of chakra for an academy level clone. Now the mass version
of the Kage bushin is apparently risking lethal drain at 5-10 clones going full out for a few minutes. Mainly because your going to spend 250 chakra points
and at 8 thats 2000 CP then your remaining reserves get spread equally. So lets say another 500 CP for a jonin. Thats 2500 CP at average Jonin, ignoring
price reduction for control ability. Naruto can make 1000 of them and have them spend chakra freely. That means 250,000 points to pull off that initial
summon and even more to power the things for hours (elemental nature training.) This means post time skip we are talking at least a 1,000,000 CP modified by
control. Add in that passively regenerates chakra each round... you get a clear message that Naruto can basically out power the Hoover Dam at that point and
that ignores the red chakra. In other words the requirement is that you must have chakra on par with a minor biju AND be on a summoning contract.
On the otherhand... I get the idea that Naruto summons Fortress doesn't get the headmaster with it.... which means Naruto goes splat and goes off the
strangle the Toad Sannin after his legs unbreak themselves.
