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Costume design images leaked. Definite WWII flavor here -- different from the comic book, but not unrecognizably so. I actually kind of like it.
-- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. 
It needs the wings. Plain cowls just don't work.
Also, that costume doesn't look like it could have been designed or created in WW2. --Sam "I weave a lethal net of baked goods that few can escape." 
I disagree EML. I think it looks just fine without; but thats cause I always thought the wings were dorky in the first place.
Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- NO QUARTER!!! -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children 
I do like the overall look here A LOT. But...
I think you ought to have the wings in some fashion otherwise it's missing something. What if instead of literal wings, they painted them on the sides of (what is obviously now) the helmet? 
I'm with Logan on this. Painted wings (even very simple wing-like-shapes) are needed
-Terry ----- "so listen up boy, or pornography starring your mother will be the second worst thing to happen to you today" TF2: Spy 
I never really liked the concept of having the wings so tiny, and over the ears. What if, instead, they had them mostly on the forehead, spreading out from the "A" as if the letter was the eagle's body, and big enough -- long enough -- that they almost reached to the ears?
----- Big Brother is watching you. And damn, you are so bloody BORING.
I could go with that DH
Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- NO QUARTER!!! -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children DHBirr Wrote:I never really liked the concept of having the wings so tiny, and over the ears. What if, instead, they had them mostly on the forehead, spreading out from the "A" as if the letter was the eagle's body, and big enough -- long enough -- that they almost reached to the ears?OH GOD FLASHBACK TO STUPID '70S CAP MOVIE DESIGN. My eyes! The goggles do NOTHING! --Sam "His therapist advocates the primal scream."
Sorry, never saw that movie. I heard comments about how bad it was, though. I take it they used a design that resembled what I described. Oops.
----- Big Brother is watching you. And damn, you are so bloody BORING.
OK, that is pretty ghastly. I envisioned something more like the U.S. Army's Aviator Badge, only with the "A" in the center rather than the shield (and the wings stretched a bit, to wrap around and at least approach the ears).
----- Big Brother is watching you. And damn, you are so bloody BORING.
Ah. I still maintain that it needs the 3D element of the wings, to break up the blah bald blandness of an unadorned cowl. Would you take the Flash's wings away?
--Sam "I can run faster than ten fast men!" 
Actually, I'd say make a circle around the "A" so it's an emblem of 3rd Army. Painted mercury wings from the side is acceptable.
__________________ Into terror!, Into valour! Charge ahead! No! Never turn Yes, it's into the fire we fly And the devil will burn! - Scarlett Pimpernell
This is the US Army Air Corps Shield. Considering that Captain America I think worked closely with the army in WWII and probably did a fair amount of parachute drops out of planes, maybe an adaptation of elements of this insignia could be used for the wings on his helmet? Just make the wings white instead of gold and place them on the sides of the helmet?
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The cowl will continue to look bad until you do something to actually break up the lines. Paint jobs won't help.
Compare Batman versus the Red Robin design that debuted in Kingdom Come. It does not look right without the ears. Batsy's ears. Cyclops' visor and sometimes visible hair. Doctor Mid-Nite's distinctive goggles. (A lot of goggles. Ted Kord's Blue Beetle, for example.) Plain smooth cowls just don't work, people. Comic book illustrators (mostly) know this. Whoever designed that Cap outfit does not. --Sam "Costume? What costume?"
The wings could easily be 3D in the variant I proposed; welded on or molded into the material somehow -- Roman helmets were sometimes decorated with embossed lines intended to represent huge eyebrows (ridiculously far up the forehead, by the way). As for the Flash, it's been so long since I've seen a representation of him that I didn't even remember seeing any wings.
And it's not as if anyone in production for the movie is going to listen to anything I suggest, so, as Baron Bodissey said, "The point is moot." ----- Big Brother is watching you. And damn, you are so bloody BORING.
That might work, tho' it's as easy to go overboard on the elements.
 The Flash has little gold Mercury wings on his temples, very similar in shape to Cap's. --Sam "You broke my cure for cancer! My unstoppable seven-step plan for world domination!"
Not his temples; over his ears.
-- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak.
Ah yes, with the full ear covers and all. Thanks for the correction.
--Sam "How the hell did I do that?"
IIRC the ORIGINAL Golden Age Flash did indeed have the Mercury style
wings on his wide-brimmed helmet. But then - the original Flash was VERY much intended to evoke Hermes/Mercury. The more recent interpretations of the Flash seem to alternate between lightning bolts or wings over the ears. Depends on the interpretation. The JLU Flash definitely used lightning bolts. (Probably easier to draw for animation) while the comics - well it's a bit hard to tell sometimes without having actual comics in front of me. But a quick google of images seems to show that the wings are used more often, but also lightning bolts seem to be used on various versions. (Then again it could be the angle the drawing is depicting. Hard to tell if it's wings or lightning bolts in a straight front-on view.) 
I think we're getting bogged down in minutiae here. The point is that there's something breaking up the monotony of every other hero's cowl, which this version of Cap needs but doesn't have.
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