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Pacific Rim!
Pacific Rim!
#1
So, yeah. I just got back from the early show. I'll make this short and simple:

You. Are. Going. To. See. This. Movie.

That is all.
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#2
2-D?
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#3
2D, 3D, hell 5D if you can manage it. Just go see it.
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#4
There are things you could say to make me interested in seeing this movie.

That was not one of them.

-Morgan.
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#5
Kurisu Wrote:2-D?
2-D, or not 2-D - that is... really not important.

(Haven't seen the movie yet...)
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#6
This....

I must watch this like 400 times more.

I'll be in my bunk otherwise
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#7
I had tonnes of fun watching the movie!
Where there plot holes big enough to ride a kaiju through? yes
Did it bother me at all when I watched the movie? no (well only one of them was jarring enough to go 'wait a minute...')
would I recommend see it? definitely!
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#8
The general consensus is that it's going to be one of those "So bad it's good" classics. Pretty pretty fight scenes and Plot? What Plot?
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#9
This had some of the worst acting I've seen in a long time

But I have no room in my mind for such trivialities because DEPLOY SWORD FOR MY FAMILY robot punching action.

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#10
Just saw it. My opinion:

The right amount of, 'Okay, that was cool', 'Oh my God that was cheesy', and 'Whoa, didn't expect that'.
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#11
Rocket Effin Punch!

Nuff Said!
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#12
Morganni Wrote:There are things you could say to make me interested in seeing this movie.

That was not one of them.
Will this convince you?

"Gundam vs. Godzilla, as directed by Guillermo del Toro."
-"Mr_Sandman", on the SJGames forums.

(Nothing there that isn't in the trailers...)
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them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

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Pacific Rim... it's a job well done.
#13
Pacific Rim - enjoyed it a great deal - a love letter to several genres.  Mad props to the mad scientists, gratuitous Ron Pearlman and the strange fascination with a single shoe held aloft.
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#14
Quote:Foxboy wrote:
Plot? What Plot?
There's a decent plot.
Is it Inception levels of plot within mindscrew within "we MUST HAVE A TWEEST!"? No. It's a two hour action flick. It knows what it wants to be. There is precisely enough plot to support the acting, the basic concept, and anything extraneous was cut away.

One of the biggest examples I can think of is when you see the retired ex-pilot get asked to suit up again, because things are going to hell and they need him. He's clearly not into the idea, so the Big Black Leader Guy asks him a simple question. "Haven't you heard? The end of the world is at hand. And when that comes and you die, would you rather be in a Jaeger, or dangling up on that wall?"

The next scene has the guy debarking from a helicopter at the Jaeger deployment base. There is no horrible fifteen minutes of soul searching over this. No dwelling on the trauma of seeing his brother die five years ago. When it comes down to it, do you want to wallow, or do you want to do something about it and fight? The movie chooses "fight", and that is really all you need to know.

In another scene, one character mentions that "Huh, bread? I haven't seen that in years." That's all that's mentioned. No ten minutes of explanation of how kaiju have impacted the global economy and Jaegers are bankrupting the world as the cost of survival. That's excess to requirements. This movie doesn't spend minutes on things that a few cues will indicate for people without needing to smack you over the head with them.

Calling it shallow or cliche' is a misnomer. It is classic. These are story arcs we've all seen before. These are characters we've all seen before. There is nothing terribly new and different in this movie. But there was nothing new and terribly different in Star Wars, and yet you don't see people griping about that. It is a collection of classic archetypes, plot points, characters, and twists that were polished to a mirror shine by Del Toro and his crew because they are fans of this genre and they get it.

Also, if someone says that there's no underlying theme in this movie? They're wrong. The theme is that family and that you are not alone. It's hammered in with every character interaction to the point that, if Del Toro hadn't basically said that he was tired of PR being compared to Eva, you'd think this was a massive middle finger to everything Evangelion seems to fixate on.

This was a good movie. A solid movie. One I will watch over and over because it makes me feel good about myself and other people. It did that better than Man of Steel, which stars goddamn Superman. And that's really all I can really say further without spoilers.
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#15
Unlike OpMegs, I'm going to give you a spoiler. It's a very very mild spoiler, and I don't think it'll make any difference to your enjoyment. But I'm citing this because it underscores everything Ops said up there.
The male and female lead? The two lead protagonists of the film?

They don't kiss at the end.

They don't need to. 

That's on purpose. In interviews, del Toro's talked about that, and made it clear he deliberately went for camera work, lines and interaction to suggest closeness and intimacy, but stopped short, on purpose, of putting an actual explicit romantic angle in there. You can read into it if that's what you want. Probably most people are going to do so. 

But the underlying theme behind the neural interfaces that the pilots need to drive the Jaegers...is that in doing so, you know your co-pilot better than anyone. It's about teamwork and partnership. That's a theme for not only the lead duo, but other characters in the film. 

Or, let me put it this way. Yes, this is a movie about giant robots punching giant monsters. It's got well-done action sequences, it's got awesome special effects. All that is very cool and very well done, and as a geek who loves giant mecha, I rocked the hell out of that.

But I went to see the movie with someone who doesn't give a single damn about all this geek stuff. And she really liked it too, possibly even more than I did. 

Pre-Movie: "Well, okay, I don't really like robot stuff. Can you explain it again? Is it like Transformers?" 

Post-Movie: "WHEN IS THE SEQUEL COMING OUT? There's going to be a sequel, right?"

It was a good movie. It has great lines. It has moments of cool. It has witty banter. It has heroes making the ultimate sacrifice, going out with moments of awesome. 

You have to understand, it's a love-letter to the genre. That means more than throwing lots of money into computer animation to make nice-looking robots. It also means that the director and his co-writer have thought long and hard about the underlying concepts and ideas in giant mecha stories.

Beyond the giant mecha combat, the movie has very clear themes and messages, and it carries those well. There is genuine storytelling here. There are character arcs.

This might not be art or literature. But it's a good film. That's enough for me.
-- Acyl
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#16
I considered what to add, but really, Acyl hit it square on the head.
So... What he said. Totally. Smile
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#17
I totally forgot that was coming out this weekend. Oh well, weekday matinees are cheaper!

ETA - Gô Nagai approves of this movie. ALL I NEED TO KNOW!
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#18

Should put this here I suppose - official co-lab with WB/Del Toro and a bunch of Youtubers from Polaris (previously TheGameStation) for PacRim
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#19
"robkelk Wrote:Gundam

Eyrie Productions has my needs in that category pretty much covered. (With some assistance from Kenichi Sonoda.)

Quote:Godzilla

EPU's got this one covered too.

Quote:Guillermo del Toro

I might have heard of this person before.

Actually, I did some looking, and this film seems designed to make me go "meh". I had no particular desire to wipe it from the face of the earth until reading M Fnord's OP, but I also wouldn't go see it without there being a decent bribe involved.

-Morgan. If all existing copies are mysteriously found filled with water, it was probably me.
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Definitely worth seeing
#20
Not quite Gundam..otherwise the Kaijuu would had been sent packing every time. More in line of the 70's or 80's mecha anime. Opmeg is right. This is a story about the bonds between family:
Bond between two brothers
Bond between father and son
Bond between father and daughter
Rocket falcon punch!
Form sword!..too bad it's not blazing.
"You are an arrogant, opinionated jerk and I saw that from the first moment I saw you. But you are your father's son and that is good enough for me."
Epic hero speech..nuff said.
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#21
Just got back from my second viewing - still as amazing as first time IMO
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#22
Pacific Rim is a bad movie.
It is a bad movie in the same way that Big Trouble in Little China is a bad movie.
They knew they were not making an epic, tour-de-force for the academy or the ages. They were making a movie where it's all right to kick ass and chew bubblegum. And you don't have to skimp on the bubblegum. So, instead of trying to drown us in acting and story and emotional morass they gave us giant robots beating the crap out of giant monsters. The only thing that was missing was a red, convertable 1970 Plymouth Barracuda. Oh, and the main character should have been so big he could only be made out of win. And named "Harold." And the chick should have been a redhead.
Because she digs giant robots.
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#23


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#24
I got a chance to see this while on vacation, and I was trying to spot as many references as I could... I was pretty sure that the Hong Kong kaijuu reffed both Cloverfield and the 2000 US-made Godzilla, as well as Rhodan. I know I spotted a few others -- but not all. Maybe we could build a list, just for the fun of it?
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#25
The robot basic design (where the robot mimics the pilot's movements) was a reference to Tosho Daimos.
"We are a walking nuclear reactor." - got to be from the Jet Alone episode from NGE.  
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