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Just a progress update on the DEFAULTSORTKEY project:
[table] Sortkey begins with
Page count "A " | 1433 | "AN " | 157 | "THE " (all) | 19822 | "THE " (is a subpage) | 9382 | [/table]
So, only 20k to go! Going to want a bot to help?
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vorticity Wrote:Just a progress update on the DEFAULTSORTKEY project:
Sortkey begins with
Page count"A "1433"AN "157"THE " (all)19822"THE " (is a subpage)9382
So, only 20k to go! Going to want a bot to help? would we do that with regex or AWB?
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My cute answer is "both". However, there's a major problem with using MassEditRegex: the regex doesn't have access to the page's metadata, only the page text. The page title is the important metadata in this context. I suppose it would be possible to do it in two edits with MERx: the first to add something like "" to the page, and the second to extract the title information and replace it with a proper {{DEFAULTSORT}}. If all you have is a hammer, eventually you'll knock that bolt loose.
But really, bots are the right choice. I've never actually used AWB, but I assume it can do it? I'm running a major link update now -- I think I was two whole years out of date on that. In passing, if it notices a page without a sortkey, it will go ahead and add one. This is one of those jobs that will edit in the thousands of pages, so I should solve some of the problem today.
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thank fuck i removed the filters ability to remove user rights after that because after editing the article daiguard edited to test it it blocked me too.
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What license do we put on derivative works?
Original: http://superredundant.com/?comic=116-number-crunching
TVT's/ATT's file: http://allthetropes.org/wiki/File:LoSRH116_4754.jpg
It's obviously a derivative, but it isn't an exact copy.
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I went ahead and created a navbox for the ages of Comic books:
http://allthetropes.org/wiki/Template: ... ero_Comics]here for them as wants to see it. I guess I'll do the animation one I suggested now.
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Finished my rename-bot run. As a side-effect, I hit about 1000 pages with a DEFAULTSORT:
[table] Sortkey begins with
Page count "A " | 1279 | "AN " | 142 | "THE " (all) | 17592 | sum | 19013 | [/table]I was hoping for a bit more than that, but progress, progress. There are probably some unused redirects that should be deleted now. Not to mention a few pages with the wrong pagename category. But honestly I'm just glad to be done with the two days of edits. I can email anyone lists of renames or lists of suspect categories, if they want to work on that.
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vorticity Wrote:... There are probably some unused redirects that should be deleted now. ... I wouldn't bother deleting them. Somebody might come to ATT from elsewhere on the web by way of an "unused" redirect.
Unless the redirects are spelled incorrectly - then I say "nuke them". ATT is not a dictionary.
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I'm afraid that depends on your definition of spelled incorrectly. Which of these would qualify?
[table] OldNew Sora no Woto | So Ra No Wo To | ANZA Cs | ANZACs | PlayStation 3/Laconic | Play Station 3/Laconic | Seventh Sea | 7th Sea | Striker S Sound Stage X | StrikerS Sound Stage X | Where Where | Where? Where? | Schrodinger's Gun | Schrödinger's Gun | Wizards Crown | Wizard's Crown | Re Lex | Relex | Episode Zero the Beginning | Episode Zero: The Beginning | [/table]Just FYI, Amanda wants to be unbanned, but with her cousin/ alternate personality Lawrence-Prairies is still banned.
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vorticity Wrote:I'm afraid that depends on your definition of spelled incorrectly. Which of these would qualify? "ANZA Cs", "Striker S Sound Stage X", "Where Where", and "Re Lex", at the minimum.
vorticity Wrote:Just FYI, Amanda wants to be unbanned, but with her cousin/ alternate personality Lawrence-Prairies is still banned. Using the same idiosyncrasies of grammar and language, and the same attitude of removing unflattering posts made by others, as LP. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and acts like a duck...
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All this basically confirms is that John's an unique human who has this specific difference between him and every other human.
It's that he is an invertebrate.
Tell john to stop pussying about and just filter out the fucking emails.
Utter fucking pisstake.
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And now I'm getting a massive number of 503s when trying to edit the freebie wiki. Also getting 503s on ATT and Meta.
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Funny how all the trouble accessing Miraheze disappeared once the stewards caved...
(crosses that bridge; burns it)
Do we have a page under Writer's Tools for licenses?
Do we want a page under Writer's Tools - or anywhere else on ATT - for licenses?
Over on the freebie wiki, I just chased a free-use license down a rabbit-hole... and came up with two of them instead of the expected one. So, here's the start of a list of licenses, in MediaWiki markup:
* GNU doesn't have an "art" license, instead sending people to FSF
* FSF doesn't have an "art" license, instead sending people to artlibre.org
* [ http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ artlibre.org Free Art License 1.3]
* [ http://opensource.org/licenses/artistic-license/ Open Source Initiative Artistic license] - two versions
And there's always Creative Commons. Anybody got a link for them?
This (hypothetical?) page should also mention "putting your work into the public domain" - which is not the same as offering a license for it.
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robkelk Wrote:Funny how all the trouble accessing Miraheze disappeared once the stewards caved...
(crosses that bridge; burns it)
Do we have a page under Writer's Tools for licenses?
Do we want a page under Writer's Tools - or anywhere else on ATT - for licenses?
Over on the freebie wiki, I just chased a free-use license down a rabbit-hole... and came up with two of them instead of the expected one. So, here's the start of a list of licenses, in MediaWiki markup:
* GNU doesn't have an "art" license, instead sending people to FSF
* FSF doesn't have an "art" license, instead sending people to artlibre.org
* [http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ artlibre.org Free Art License 1.3]
* [http://opensource.org/licenses/artistic-license/ Open Source Initiative Artistic license] - two versions
And there's always Creative Commons. Anybody got a link for them?
This (hypothetical?) page should also mention "putting your work into the public domain" - which is not the same as offering a license for it. How long until it all goes to shit again like we all know it will
I guess it could count under the GNU Free Documentation License
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_ ... on_License
It's naturally designed for non-fiction works but I don't see why it couldn't be applied to literature.
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LulzKiller Wrote:robkelk Wrote:...
Do we have a page under Writer's Tools for licenses?
Do we want a page under Writer's Tools - or anywhere else on ATT - for licenses?
Over on the freebie wiki, I just chased a free-use license down a rabbit-hole... and came up with two of them instead of the expected one. So, here's the start of a list of licenses, in MediaWiki markup:
* GNU doesn't have an "art" license, instead sending people to FSF
* FSF doesn't have an "art" license, instead sending people to artlibre.org
* [http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ artlibre.org Free Art License 1.3]
* [http://opensource.org/licenses/artistic-license/ Open Source Initiative Artistic license] - two versions
And there's always Creative Commons. Anybody got a link for them?
This (hypothetical?) page should also mention "putting your work into the public domain" - which is not the same as offering a license for it. You're right - somebody could no doubt apply GPL or LGPL to a work of fiction.
(The trip down the rabbit-hole was because a 3D model mentioned the "GNU Fan Art" license - which isn't listed on the GNU license page. I should ask whether the artist intended to use GPL or LGPL...)
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LK Wrote:How long until it all goes to shit again like we all know it will Oh well, not my problem. I'm taking the rest of the month off from working on Miraheze stuff. I had some free time, and I was actually going to find extensions to review today, but instead I'm going to have to use my time on deleting multiple emails from "Amanda" every day.
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LulzKiller Wrote:robkelk Wrote:...
Do we have a page under Writer's Tools for licenses?
Do we want a page under Writer's Tools - or anywhere else on ATT - for licenses?
Over on the freebie wiki, I just chased a free-use license down a rabbit-hole... and came up with two of them instead of the expected one. So, here's the start of a list of licenses, in MediaWiki markup:
* GNU doesn't have an "art" license, instead sending people to FSF
* FSF doesn't have an "art" license, instead sending people to artlibre.org
* [http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ artlibre.org Free Art License 1.3]
* [http://opensource.org/licenses/artistic-license/ Open Source Initiative Artistic license] - two versions
And there's always Creative Commons. Anybody got a link for them?
This (hypothetical?) page should also mention "putting your work into the public domain" - which is not the same as offering a license for it.
You're right - somebody could no doubt apply GPL or LGPL to a work of fiction.
(The trip down the rabbit-hole was because a 3D model mentioned the "GNU Fan Art" license - which isn't listed on the GNU license page. I should ask whether the artist intended to use GPL or LGPL...) GFDL != L/GPL.
What extensions were you looking at? I'm a nosy bastard.
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Probably Extension:AutoSitemap would have been approved today. I didn't finish, but the part I saw looked good (though I did wander why they just didn't include the classes from maintenence/generateSitemap.php).
Now I guess I should work on Extension:CategoryTrails, which hacks PmWiki trails into MediaWiki. http://github.com/labster/mediawiki-CategoryTrails
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LulzKiller Wrote:How long until it all goes to shit again like we all know it will Who had "one day"?
http://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?t ... ldid=20636
I've asked the admins on Meta "Is this a valid edit to somebody's User page other than one's own?"
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And suddenly I get a couple "Internal error" messages and now ATT, Meta and who knows what else is throwing 503s.
Regarding Rob's post above, can we set up user pages to be editable only by the owner and the admins, by default? (I really need to spend some of my copious free time reading MediaWiki docs.)
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poserdazfreebies is also throwing 503s.
We can set a top-of-the-edit-box message for pages by namespace, but I don't know whether we can selectively set edit functions for pages by namespace.
EDIT: I dont see anything in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Contents]the manual about protecting an entire namespace.
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robkelk Wrote:LulzKiller Wrote:How long until it all goes to shit again like we all know it will Who had "one day"?
http://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?t ... ldid=20636
I've asked the admins on Meta "Is this a valid edit to somebody's User page other than one's own?" Reception conveniently deleted the whole userpage so I now have no idea what you mean.
We might also want to review all the code that Miraheze has on GitHub just in case the namespace thing can be done via PHP code like per LocalSettings.php
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The wiki came back after about 30 minutes, so I presume it's some of the normal weirdness and not enemy action.
And before we spill over the 300-post count, it's time to close this thread and inaugurate part 9.
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