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**robkelk** · 07-20-2022, 10:16 AM

(07-19-2022, 08:44 PM)Norgarth Wrote:

Yes, that is on the Wikipedia page about the battle, one of the most egregious examples of "friendly fire" ever.

"On the march thither, the army was seized with a most unaccountable panic, believed themselves to be threatened by the enemy, fell into disorder, and mistook their own troops from the Sclavonian frontiers for enemies. The regiments fired upon one another looked everywhere for an enemy where in reality there was none, and all attempts on the part of the emperor in person to stop the firing and put an end to the confusion were vain. He was in fact separated from his suite and wandered about ignorant of his way; it was even supposed that he had been taken prisoner when at length, accompanied by a single individual, he came to Karansebes."
-- Friedrich Christoph Schlosser, History of the Eighteenth Century and of the Nineteenth Till the Overthrow of the French Empire: With Particular Reference to Mental Cultivation and Progress (December 31, 1844)

Norgarth · 07-20-2022, 12:05 PM

Ebony · 07-20-2022, 12:15 PM

(07-20-2022, 12:05 PM)Norgarth Wrote:

Not true. Pontius Pilate was Italian.

Dartz · 07-20-2022, 12:32 PM

And of course he's the one who executed the campaigner for social justice who threatened to upset the comfortable world order of the rich and powerful

**robkelk** · 07-20-2022, 12:59 PM

To be fair, he did try to save the guy, but he was shouted down and - literally - washed his hands of the whole sordid mess.

Norgarth · (This post was last modified: 07-20-2022, 03:19 PM by Norgarth.)

Norgarth · 07-20-2022, 09:53 PM

**Labster** · 07-20-2022, 10:48 PM

(07-20-2022, 12:15 PM)Ebony Wrote:
(07-20-2022, 12:05 PM)Norgarth Wrote:

Not true. Pontius Pilate was Italian.

Nah, he was definitely not an Italian, but he was possibly Italic. He was a Roman citizen, equestrian class, and with our best guess from the name, probably an ethnic Samnite (which is in Italia but is not a Latin area). There's very very little information on Pilate's personal life. I'd rate the original concept as true because "white" as a concept didn't really exist then -- but you get lots of accounts of bigotry against Judeans, Assyrians, Edomites, Persians, Egyptians, Samaritans, and all sorts of folks that today we'd lump into one ethnic group.

hazard · 07-21-2022, 04:16 AM

(07-20-2022, 09:53 PM)Norgarth Wrote:

To be fair, they were doing that while committing murders.

Not to say Wayne Enterprises is clean, but however nice the motive, it's still murder.

(Bruce should've totally visited them afterwards in the asylum about how with the resources of Wayne Enterprises he can help them with their environmental goals and make all three of them absurdly rich in the process)

Norgarth · 07-21-2022, 08:22 AM

Norgarth · 07-21-2022, 11:56 AM

classicdrogn · 07-21-2022, 01:49 PM

(07-12-2022, 10:55 AM)Norgarth Wrote:

TIL that this is a major plot element in Boruto (the next-gen sequel to Naruto.) I never felt that getting out of that fandom once Sauce-kay took over as the main character was a bad idea, but it has never seemed more justified. No less because he's the man-ho in this mystery.