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Self-Cross?
12-11-2002, 02:35 AM
>(For anyone with access to back issues of Dragon, btw, take a look at the TOCs for #78 and #100. Spot any familiar names? )
*blinks*
*thinks about #100...*
*spit-take*
*wipes off monitor*
*runs to Evil Midnight Archive and retrieves #100*
*flips through, knowing what to expect*
*still falls off chair*
...
*evil grin*
Taking your later reply to an annoyed Brit into account:
Try this on for size...
Doug lands in modern London...but it's a dark twisted Dickensian London, and there are all those feral elf-kids and (IIRC) large talking rats running around.
And just when he's getting a handle on the Borribles world, along come a bunch of bewildered adventurers from Oerth looking for the Mace of St. Cuthbert...
(This could set up a next Step, as presumably he wouldn't have time to find a gate song and would settle for following the Slayers-wannabes back to Greyhawk one step ahead of the London constabulary...)
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Re: Self-Cross?
12-16-2002, 08:56 AM
I've been thinking about this ever since you posted it, and damn but I wish I'd thought of it. Doug in the Borribles' world would be so much fun. Kicking Rumble ass, spitting in Sussworth's face, taking on the whole damned SBG...
I gotta wedge this into the Walk somewhere.
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Borribles
12-16-2002, 03:56 PM
I do have some fond memories of the book(s). Man, it's been years...
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Re: Borribles
12-16-2002, 09:56 PM
www.theborribles.co.uk/
Ain't Google wunnerful?
(Time to order a copy of book three, which I never owned but which I read once, twenty years ago...)
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Re: Borribles
12-19-2002, 08:00 AM
Book three isn't available by itself any more, but for anyone who didn't notice this up in General Chatter, amazon.co.uk has all three novels in a single volume for about ten and a half pounds, with shipping to the US at about five more pounds.
I'll be buying this for myself after Christmas, for sure.
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Re: Borribles
12-31-2002, 04:23 PM
I just ordered my copy -- and a copy for the friend who owned book 3 twenty years ago.
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Another London
12-05-2003, 06:47 AM
It occurs to me that Lyra's London from the _His Dark Materials_ series would also make quite an interesting step....
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Re: Another London
12-05-2003, 07:06 AM
That's one I don't know at all... off to Amazon to look for it, I guess...
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Pullman
12-05-2003, 08:00 AM
The first in the series is _The Golden Compass_, if you decide to browse in an actual store first...
The magic tends to be somewhat lower key, but it might be a world where Doug's gifts function erratically.
Another Britain
12-06-2003, 03:53 AM
I was talking to someone today about "St. Trinians", a school setting I think Bob would have great fun dropping Doug into! This is before mid 20thC UK, still suffering from rationing, with spivs, distressed (poor) gentlepeople, dotty/deranged/larcenous school teachers, etc.
I also discussed really cruel cross-overs with this, like In Nomine, Call of Cthulhu, and most strangely Warhammer 40k.
Doug meets ruthless, determined, English public schoolgirls... Got to be good for _something_! [grin]
You can probably find the lyrics of the St. Trinians school song, "trample on the weakest, get your blow in first...", which may lead you to looking at hockey sticks with more respect in future...
Yes, I know the films were black and white, but they were still great fun, in parts!
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Re: Another Britain
12-07-2003, 04:26 AM
Sounds vaguely familiar, Dreamer. I may have seen one or more of them at some point and just not made a firm memory of it.
As for other fun locales, well, a few days ago I had the idea of throwing Doug into "Man of La Mancha" -- where he pledges to the service of Don Quixote, knowing full well that he's inside a story and what's going to happen. Doug's reasoning is that Quixote may be nutty as a fruitcake, but he's a better person with a more positive effect on the world than he was as Alonzo Quixana (Quijana? I've never read the book), and he intends to keep his son-in-law from shaking him back to "reality". Of course, the real fun begins when the Inquisition gets involved, after what would have been the end of the original story...
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Don Quixote
12-09-2003, 09:25 AM
One of the Harold Shea stories actually figures along these lines, except that Harold and his friend Reed Chalmers end up in the world that Quixote sees. For those who aren't aware of The Complete Compleat Enchanter series, it is a collection of stories written by L. Sprague de Camp and Fletcher Pratt in the 50s and 60s (and later by de Camp and Christopher Stasheff in the 90s). Harold Shea is a psychologist in Ohio who figures that psychotics are actually perceiving other universes, but they're only perceiving them partially, hence the damage to their minds. He figures out how to put oneself fully into the perception of another universe, and ends up in the Nine Worlds of Norse myth shortly before Ragnarok for his troubles. Later stories include adventures in Spenser's Faerie Queene, and other literary and mythic sagas. In each one, Shea and his travelling companions have to figure out the rules of the world and survive with their wits and their knowledge of the basic rules of magic. In the trip to Quixote's universe, Chalmers (who is a very analytical person) sees what Cervantes wrote about, while Shea (something of a romantic) sees Quixote's world as Quixote sees it. Very amusing tale. I highly recommend the stories.
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Re: Don Quixote
12-09-2003, 10:17 PM
Huh. That's a Shea story I've never heard of. Is it one of the ones that they just dug up recently?
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The Compleat Quixote
12-10-2003, 01:11 AM
Actually, I think that's one of the ones Stasheff wrote, although I may be wrong. He did a handful of follow-on stories a few years back.
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Re: The Compleat Quixote
12-10-2003, 07:49 AM
I'll have to go look for it. I've never read any of the Stasheff Shea stuff. I've loved his "Warlock" books for twenty years or more now, but haven't looked at much of his other writing; are his Shea continuations any good?
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Re: The Compleat Quixote
12-19-2003, 09:52 AM
They're pretty good. The first couple are in cooperation with deCamp. Hang on ... ah, here we are. The Complete Compleat Enchanter features the first five stories. deCamp and Stasheff did The Enchanter Reborn, which also features Holly Lisle and John Maddox Roberts writing from outlines by the other two. That one contains the Quixote story. They also wrote The Exotic Enchanter, which includes several more stories, including a journey to Russian myth. Fun stuff all the way around.
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Re: The Compleat Quixote
12-19-2003, 05:43 PM
I'll have to see if I can slip that volume onto a Christmas list somewhere... failing that, I'll buy it after New Year's. Thanks!
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Re: The Compleat Quixote
01-01-2004, 06:37 AM
I think my favorite story in the latter two volumes has to be the one set on Barsoom. (In return for aid and assistance in recovering Belphebe from yet another kidnap attempt, Harold must teach Ras Thavas how to pick up girls he didn't build from scratch.)
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Re: The Compleat Quixote
01-02-2004, 01:23 AM
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