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06-20-2011, 07:50 PM
http://www.oregonlive.com..._citys_water_supply.html
Submitted without comment - I have no background or experience in this.
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Wouldn't the water be treated before going into the city system anyway? That's the way it's done here in Texas. If you have an open reservoir, it's effectively just an artificial lake. It's open to the sky, maybe fish might find their way in. (In some cases reservoirs are stocked with fish regularly!) Birds are going to crap in it. But it doesn't really matter, because it's just a raw supply of water that's "upstream" of the treatment plant.
*Reads the article more thoroughly, follows links*
Ok, reading the links, apparently this water was in a system of open pools that was already treated. it wasn't part of the "lake". If so, I can sort of understand why the administrator felt the need to dump it. I agree it probably wasn't a problem. But still.
Why is already treated water in an open pool though? Isn't that asking for this kind of trouble?
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And Americans pay for their water?
Our drinking water is stored untreated in reservoirs, and is only really treated right before being sent into the system. Storing treated water open to the atmosphere is just asking for trouble. Think of all the dead critters falling in to it.
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Quote:And Americans pay for their water?
Everyone pays for their water, one way or another. I pay in electricity and maintenance to run my well, the folks on 'city' water pay for the upkeep of the system, etc, etc.
Unless I'm misunderstanding, and this is a dig at the open-reservoir-of-treated-water, which I agree with.
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Up until recently, it was just handled by the usual taxes. The system took a hammering during the last two winters, and the IMf are calling the shots now thanks to the bank baillout.
edit; Trimmed the bullshit.
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O_o WTF is wrong with Americans? I have had the honor of visiting an old swiss water treatment plant, and it was noted that the (partially treated) water was too human accessible because it was exposed to the outside air (through the building air filtration system) and that water treatment plant workers could access it. Similarly parts of the plant where theoretically accessible to plant workers which required replacing some seals every year or so, whereas in proper modern treatment plants that section of the equipment is sealed in concrete. One of the major sources of pollutants in the water that came out of the plant was when they are redoing the seal around the equipment, and as long as it's properly sealed it lasts for a century or so without maintenance.
Keep in mind the Swiss where upset and where phasing out access to the water for treatment plant employees, and that air from the building ventilation touched the (partially treated) water. I would not be surprised if the water that is coming out of the swiss sewage treatment plants is cleaner than American 'drinking' water.
Of course the swiss also had a problem that some of their water piping predated the first world war, and pipe that old has corrosion issues.
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People in the US spend a lot of money on bottled water and water filters for their faucets.
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as a US resident I get the logic behind water filters (especially after living in NJ), but I never understood the craze about bottled water. laziness maybe?
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magical thinking and laziness. Bottled water, by and large, is just municipal supply..
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The man is an idiot
06-21-2011, 01:42 PM
So let's do the math.
The bladder, on average can hold 600 milliliters of urine; though we typically wish to empty it at 250ml or so capacity. So even assuming he is in danger of doing himself a Tycho Brae and holding off until maximum capacity is reached; we are talking 600 milliliters or .159 gallons of piss - a largely sterile substance. The bozo drained 7.8 Million gallons of water.
The people responsible for the micturation and the draining are idiots.
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Meh, I think we've seen stupider. Still having an open to everything storage of drinking water is just asking for trouble. Most locations I know of that have outside holding ponds run it through some treatment & filtering before letting it into the mains. I think I've driven past storage of that much recycled water.
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That would require a bureaucracy to do something that makes sense, Rod.
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Treatment would eliminate any pathogens. If they aren't treating the water before piping into the municipal system they've got a a big potential problem. Water borne diseases are not something to laugh at or for the matter court. (very long list of those and I've had my runins with some of the nastier members of the tribe over the years.
And the concern over what was at most a half liter of urine are overblown. Given the size of the reservoir the urine is more likely to have ended up being metabolized by algae and bacteria already in the water also this counts more as an example of drop in a 100 gallon tank than a drop in a bucket.
Also I can point to a different sources of contamination they should be concerned wildlife. Given that this is a water source I have little if any doubt that local wildlife are making use of it. And in those cases a certain percentage of their bodily wastes will end up in the water along with the bodies of those who manage to fall in and are then unable to get out before drowning.
That said anybody delibirately contaminating water supplies as occurred in this case should face prosecution and severe fines at the very least. If not jail time.
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Well according to the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/w...Mount_Tabor_%28Oregon%29 on the reservoir in question, none of their outlets to the municipal are filtered. Looking at the available Google photos (sat & streetview) I'll just say they're surrounded by a not very impressive fence.
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