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Question about The Infamous
11-25-2008, 02:27 AM
Who is in effective charge of the Infamous group? Or perhaps, who among the ranks would have the resources, clout, and chutzpah to portray being in charge and
pull it off successfully?
I can see Nogitsune, for one; possibly Mother Meyai (sp?) as well. Who else? I don't _know_ that many of the Infamous; it's making it hard to get a
handle on someone.
I'm strongly leaning towards Nogi at this point, but I'm open for ideas -- and for all I know, Nogi may have some reasons why she _wouldn't_ strike
against the Legendary.
(Working on a story, need a villainous foil.)
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The official 'Leader' of the Infamous is TechHead (Bots/FF MM), played by ElectroEagle. Nogi is one of the sort-of-pseudo-leaders, but Fox has gone
apostate to WoW. =(
As for Villianous Foil, I dunno who you could use. Ask around.
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The stuff on the Virtue wiki is still mostly accurate
http://68.178.145.67/index.php/The_Infamous
Although I think Clank has since been promoted, and I'm not certain Happy Grin still exists.
Honestly though, I've never seen The Infamous as being that structured. Hex is technically one of the inner circle, but in many ways she treats the group
more as a social exercise than anything else. This is mostly because she has no grand plans or ambitions though, and other members have other ideas.
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There's always the Cloud Three, although they treat the SG as more a host to parasitize upon while they have their fun with the Isles.
(Kagetsuki Misao, Chiyuki Inari, and Hanagawa Sachie, that is... possibly also the 'Kumo 3', since 'Kumo' can be translated as both
'Cloud' (the ninja village) and 'Spider' (Arachnos...)
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The Infamous are indeed not tightly organized, and have no Megalomanical Supervillains bent on World Domination, or other such crap. And for the most part they
kinda get along with the Legendary at times. Or at least Inari, Sachie and Ankh are all on good terms with Terr. It might just be him, it -is- Terr.
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*shifty eyes* y'know If i ever remade Terr for a table top or online rpg kinda game..I'd have to seriously consider raising his charisma or equivilant
attribute.. >< lol Its like he's a people person or something ^_^''
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The Infamous was originally founded by a stalker called Don Carnage. [Note it's pronounced CAR-nuj, not car-NAZH] HE was all set for money, power, women, etc..
Until Disney's Lawyers got him.
Tech Head got the official title and tried to keep the disparate groups organized. At this point, it was more like a group of villains who hung out to play poker or somesuch.
Nogi, however, had a bit of a falling out with the Union of Masterminds (Local 1938) and briefly joined the Infamous before she was captured by Sister Psyche and Numina and removed from her first Modern host, the heroine QB Kitsune. Psyche trapped Nogi's spirit matrix in a Noh Kitsune Mask. Some of Nogi's plans for such an eventuality came about and she eventually returned, possessing a Crey Paragon Protector based off of QB, who had advanced to Security rating 30 by then. At this point, she insinuated herself into the command structure through lots of clever social engineering. She can get most of the Infamous to do what she wants through subtle manipulation, even if they think they're spiting her by refusing her direct requests. She has not yet needed to utilize her "stick" forms of management, though Mother Meyai has tempted her greatly.
tl;dr: No real structure to the mob, Nogi is sneaky.
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The idea of a lose collaboration of supervillains, all playing each other for their own ends does mesh very well with what I remember.
Clank manly uses her membership in the legendary as a means to help the next generation of villains. After all, refusing the assistance of some random villain can easily be done. But refusing the help of a member in high standing of your supergroup? That's playing for higher stakes.
* Helping in this case can be read as: Assistance in some small way (a mission or two, perhaps some credits), that can be later called in when they are significantly more powerful. After all, it is much better to be owed favors then to owe them.
With the introduction of larger threats (RWZ & Cim) she has even started to experiment with helping heroes.
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My general experiences with the Infamous (and the still bubbling Legendary Movie script) have generally suggested that the Infamous, loosely coordinated as it
is, is rather oddly organized.
At the top, you have the trifecta leaders: TechHead, Lord Omega, and Lady Nogitsune. Lord Omega, according to the Virtueverse page, can barely stomach dealing
with organics at all, so he's unlikely to be very visible. Nogi is, as Fox said, one for manipulating through stealth and guile, and my general impression
of TechHead has been as a very hands off looming presence. He doesn't make orders often, but when he does, it's understood they'll be obeyed. In
return, the Infamous's facilities are free to anyone involved. And, as of yet, he's yet to really issue any large orders...
Below these guys, you have the various heavy hitters, veterans, and on down through the Threat Levels that really seem to clump to whoever offers them the best
deal, or whenever one of the leaders makes it worth their while to cooperate.
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You can always use Flame as a villain foil if you want. She's not in the Infamous, but she abuses Nogi to do
Flame's bidding pals around a lot with Nogi...
Flame would strike against the Legendary because they're there
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>.>
mmmmmm... villainy. -eagerly awaits continuation of this plotting-
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Kaze no Kage considers Nogitsune the leader of the Infamous. She's got ranking in the Celestial Heirarchy; the rest of you are just poor, sad little
humans. Or worse, gaijin.
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*smirk*
clank is not a sad little human or a gaijin, she is a mobile weapons platform. And she already knows who her maker is.
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Mm. Okay. This is kinda how I envisioned it, so I'm glad I'm not totally off-base.
If there are no objections, I'll probably make use of Nogi and Clank. Fox and Sweno, I'll email/PM you two privately on it to make sure I've got
them down correctly.
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Quote: sweno wrote:
*smirk*
clank is not a sad little human or a gaijin, she is a mobile weapons platform. And she already knows who her maker is.
Oh, worse. Clank's a thing. An effective thing, but of little or no consequence in the Celestial Heirarchy. (Yes, I know Kaze's perception is
skewed, but she's a corrupted spirit from the Shinto pantheon. She's not about to have a particularly cosmopolitan world view or tolerant metaphysical
outlook. She's a malicious cloud of smog.)
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Ebony Wrote:Oh, worse. Clank's a thing. An effective thing, but of little or no consequence in the Celestial Heirarchy. (Yes, I know Kaze's perception is skewed, but she's a corrupted spirit from the Shinto pantheon. She's not about to have a particularly cosmopolitan world view or tolerant metaphysical outlook. She's a malicious cloud of smog.)
I can just imagine Alexis hearing that, and laughing until she cried...
Also, reading this thread makes me wonder if any of my characters are actually in the Infamous in-story. I don't think any of them are.
-Morgan. In fact, storywise Rin Karakura's a *hero*...
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I would be amused (and not surprised) to see Team Kumo turn up as Nogi's assistants at some point. 
As for poor Clank, well... Misao's not the terribly religious type, but Shinto is pretty much it in Ninja-Land... on the other claw, she does respect Clank's obvious power.
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Quote:Oh, worse. Clank's a thing. An effective thing, but of little or no consequence in the Celestial Heirarchy.
Hmmm, there's a couple of Girl Genius plotlines that imply differently - specifically, that advanced enough clanks (it's a type as well as her name) do, in fact, possess souls..
which would make her a person.
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Quote: Wiredgeek wrote:
Quote: Oh, worse. Clank's a thing. An effective thing, but of little or no consequence in the Celestial Heirarchy.
Hmmm, there's a couple of Girl Genius plotlines that imply differently - specifically, that advanced enough clanks (it's a type as well as her name)
do, in fact, possess souls..
which would make her a person.
Hmm. Never any doubt of that. Of course, it means little to Kaze. As I said, she's a corrupted Shinto spirit; her worldview and cosmology is skewed. In
truth, Kaze is out of harmony with the Celestial Heirarchy herself, which makes her more than a little insane and inconsistent.
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Quote:Hmmm, there's a couple of Girl Genius plotlines that imply differently - specifically, that advanced enough clanks (it's a type as well as her name) do, in fact, possess souls..
Much like what I was thinking, really. Alexis probably knows machine constructs that have a higher level of spiritual power... (And since "Celestial Heirarchy" would make her think of something like Disgaea... power's important!)
-Morgan. Of course, having a body is an advantage there. At least if I'm the one writing. '.'
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I'm not a Girl Genius fan, mostly 'cause I don't like the art...I'm not saying it's bad, it just doesn't click with my aesthetic sense. But the concept of a machine with a soul has always struck me as a fascinating one.
This is doubly so in the City of Heroes/Villains universe, where the question of the soul isn't just academic theology. The existence of a soul can be confirmed scientifically - in the sense that you have repeatable procedures to empirically verify the soul's existence. Nevermind that they're magical. =D
And in that sense, I've always insisted that Obsolete has a soul. How and why is anyone's guess.
I'm not sure how she views the Infamous or her place in it, however. I suspect she never actually joined.
She...probably just simply walked into the base one day and started dusting.
's not like anyone's gonna tell her to leave. After all, she a) keeps the place clean, b) makes an excellent cup of tea, and c) emits enough radiation to melt through the side of a battleship...
I imagine she stays because the group is reasonably nice to her (see point c), and by this point considers her one of 'em. And vice-versa. I think that kind of loose sense of belonging is sufficient for Obsolete. She's alive and self-aware, but not, I think, particularly smart.
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