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		Stan Bush's 'The Touch'
		
		
		03-10-2007, 01:30 PM 
	 
		Hmm. Surprised not to have seen any Transformers: The Movie songs here...three in particular come to mind, too.You got the touch
 You got the power
 After all is said and done
 You've never walked, you've never run,
 You're a winner
 You got the moves, you know the streets
 Break the rules, take the heat
 You're nobody's fool
 You're at your best when when the goin' gets rough
 You've been put to the test, but it's never enough
 You got the touch
 You got the power
 When all hell's breakin' loose
 You'll be riding the eye of the storm
 You got the heart
 You got the motion
 You know that when things get too tough
 You got the touch
 You never bend, you never break
 You seem to know just what it takes
 You're a fighter
 It's in the blood, it's in the will
 It's in the mighty hands of steel
 When you're standin' your ground
 And you never get hit when your back's to the wall
 Gonna fight to the end and you're takin' it all
 You got the touch
 You got the power
 When all hell's breakin' loose
 You'll be riding the eye of the storm
 You got the heart
 You got the motion
 You know that when things get too tough
 You got the touch
 You're fightin' fire with fire
 You know you got the touch
 You're at your best when when the road gets rough
 You've been put to the test, but it's never enough
 You got the touch
 You got the power
 You got the touch
 You got the power
 
 My thought on what power it might give...basically it makes Doug go Super Seiyan--enhanced speed, strength, and defence, with an energy-based multipower projected from the hands (possibly with a Body of Metal--if not the whole body, the hands at least). But it'd have a major downside of being *severely* draining no matter how long the song is used, leaving Doug weak or unconcious afterwards--used as a back-against-the-wall last resort, but to be avoided otherwise.
 Hmm. I'll post the second song in a separate post....but the third one, 'Instruments of Destruction' (in either the original, or the TF:tM forms--there's some lyric changes between the two, in particular swapping out the word 'seduction' for something more kiddy-friendly), I have the feeling would end up on the 'Do not use' listing. ;-)
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		03-13-2007, 04:24 AM 
	 
		This is not the first time these songs have come up here.  I think we actually have a power for "Instruments of Destruction", though I'm damned if I can remember what.  This one... hm.  While anything that amps up Doug works for me, I think this one might be more interesting as a "lend a power" song...
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		03-14-2007, 12:42 AM 
	 
		I hadn't thought of that, actually...makes sense.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		03-15-2007, 08:25 PM 
	 
		Quote:This one... hm. While anything that amps up Doug works for me, I think this one might be more interesting as a "lend a power" song...
 
 
How about as an Activate (reactivate?) a power song. 
It works with the "genetics" of the targeted person (which Doug has to touch) and activates a 
"random" latent (or nullified) power that said person would have at least the potential for. 
This would be similiar to what hapened to Lisa in DWII. 
If untargeted, or the tareted person has no powers (latent or otherwise) to activate, then Doug suffers the usual backlash.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		03-16-2007, 06:46 PM 
	 
		Ennnnhhh.  I'd rather stick with a power-gift if I had my druthers.-- Bob
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		03-30-2007, 02:29 AM 
	 
		Here's the thing... 
"The Touch" isn't just any old song.  It is, very specifically, a character theme song.
Optimus Prime's theme song. 
I just can't see it as anything but a simulacrum generator, and I can't think of any other effect that would be half as cool or half as useful as having Prime on your side... 
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		04-04-2007, 02:23 PM 
	 
		Um.  Remembe what happened to Doug the last time he tried to do a simulacrum of a deity...
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		04-04-2007, 04:05 PM 
	 
		Quote:Um. Remember what happened to Doug the last time he tried to do a simulacrum of a deity...
 
 
Referring to Optimus Prime, I think? 
yeah, I can see that. Prime appears, the song trails off into nothing..   
And Prime, is HERE. 
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		04-04-2007, 07:24 PM 
	 
		And Doug is down for the count, wiped utterly by the unexpected power point cost...
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		04-04-2007, 09:21 PM 
	 
		A god?  Prime is all different kinds of awesome, but he isn't actually a god.  (The Matrix may be some kind of divine artifact, but that isn't quite the same thing either.)--Sam
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		04-04-2007, 11:34 PM 
	 
		*falls over laughing* True...Optimus Prime may be godly (well, at least until Michael Bay got his mitts on the concept, anyway.   ), but he's not a god himself. *Primus*, now, that's a bit different, depending on which universe version you're looking at...though that *does* give me the mental image of Doug meeting Primus and getting the rather confusing comment, "Oh...you're the *other* Chaos-Bringer. At least you don't eat planets...I think." ;-)
	
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		04-09-2007, 04:25 AM 
	 
		While I understand the idea of it being a "power gift" song, if you look at the context of the song it's got something special about it.  First off, while it is Optimus Prime's theme song, it's more generically "Prime's" theme song - that is, it's the theme song of the Rightful Holder of The Matrix, and it comes into play when that individual is specifically rises to Meet Their Destiny. 
The first time it's played is when Optimus Prime challenges Megatron one-on-one, crashing through a large number of Decepticons (and killing them in the process) to get there.  Then second time is when Rodimus Prime finally activates The Matrix and destroys Unicron.  The first time it ends in the death of Optimus, but that was only after Hot Rod interfered, so I wouldn't make that a requirement   
So, I think the power should be that it allows Doug to rise up to the challenge presented before him, but it only  works when all the chips are down - as Rodimus Prime said, "Light our darkest hour."  It's a way of Doug facing a nearly hopeless situation and finding the one way to make it out in one piece. 
Of course, it's your call Bob   
On a side note, you could use "Dare", also by Stan Bush (and Hot Rod's theme song) as a fun power - it gives Doug both the skill and the cojones to be an ultimate stunt driver, carrying over to the car's capabilities as well, so that he can just drive like a bat out of hell and pull of anything he tries   
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		04-09-2007, 08:39 AM 
	 
		That sounds like an interesting interpretation actually--basically a 'last-ditch' song. Though you do have the problem of what such a situation consists of...and what happens if the song is used in something that *isn't* a last-ditch situation. ;-)
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		04-10-2007, 04:31 AM 
	 
		If it's not a warranted situation, the song doesn't work.  Depending on how not last-ditch it is, it could simply fizzle, or it could backfire.  In some ways, it's akin to using "Twist of Fate" - you're asking the gods to give you something extraordinary, and it's up to them to decide if you're worthy and what it's gonna cost you.As a starting point, I'd put the following restriction on when it's likely to work: If there's not a decent chance Doug, his compatriots, and/or those he's protecting are going to die when Doug starts the song, it won't work.  Plus, the more Doug is willing to die to succeed,  the greater the chance that it will succeed.  If he's not willing to sacrifice himself to win, he's not gonna win.  Not that it means he has to die to win, just that he has to be willing to do so...
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		06-25-2007, 01:48 PM 
	 
		Quote:So, I think the power should be that it allows Doug to rise up to the challenge presented before him, but it only works when all the chips are down - as Rodimus Prime said, "Light our darkest hour." It's a way of Doug facing a nearly hopeless situation and finding the one way to make it out in one piece.
 
 
I just love this idea to pieces, except as a writer.    It would come across as just too much of a deus ex machina if I were to actually try this in a story.
 
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