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Shocker: Legit discussion
Re: Shocker unmasked
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I could get a quote or 12 on this, but I'd like to point out that when he didn't know that Peter was Spiderman, Herman did like Peter... even if he thought he was a gay dance instructor. The second he heard this ID he berserked.... Peter Parker is Spiderman... Must destroy. RARG!!!
Considering that Rhino Berserked at the same time, I have to wonder if there was an outside influence involved here. Either conditioning or psionics for instance... I note that the two in the party that had been created by members of the global conspiracy flipped out here... the other two different. Though this may be a red herring effect. It was a calculated move to bring that up in the first place.
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Two, no body sees themselve's as the bad guy and everyone thinks their actions are justified, so Herman keeps losing sight of the fact that he and the people he goes drinking with are THE BAD GUYS here.
I'm not a fan of this line... its a generalization that isn't true. Some do realize it... many of those fail to care or embrace the fact they are evil. This usually makes them more dangerous. Just like people that 'know' they are 'good' can do very bad things in the name of good. Identity is a source of vast power.
Look at the Punisher... he is a soulless killing machine. Granted he targets criminals and psychos... but he is basically a villain/antihero and he is in the D&D vernacular Neutral Evil. He does evil for Evils sake. Mercilessly slaughtering people wholesale is evil by definition... A soulless killing machine is evil. He is a revenant. Revenge incarnate. As far as I know the only reason he is still alive is their is more evil to kill. The law is irrelevant. He is irrelevant except as an instrument of death. Strangely the Punisher is the same alignment as the Jiggly Butt Gang from Rave Master. Its the detail of what he does that make him interesting. The Punisher is arguably a Neutral Evil Paladin... Wrapping yor brain around that is an interesting mental exorcise.
If you remember this story started out with Shocker making his first kill... and he came full circle to the point that he could kill the one he most wanted to kill, Spiderman, he couldn't. Instead he broke down and cried.
I think one of the things I'd most like to see is Herman remembering his first thoughts about if this is being a hero... how does Spiderman put up with it?
Herman is interesting because of his faults... He only half knows what he is doing. If a different character went through the same encounters and was a different character the story may not be event close to as interesting... or more interesting. How one accomplishes something is often as or more interesting than what it was that one accomplished.
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Shocker: Legit discussion - by ClassicDrogn - 08-29-2006, 06:15 PM
Shocker unmasked - by Norgarth - 08-29-2006, 07:03 PM
Re: Shocker unmasked - by ClassicDrogn - 08-30-2006, 12:43 AM
Re: Shocker unmasked - by Sirrocco - 08-30-2006, 02:57 AM
Re: Shocker unmasked - by ClassicDrogn - 08-30-2006, 03:24 AM
Re: Shocker unmasked - by Necratoid - 08-30-2006, 07:50 AM
Re: Shocker unmasked - by Deadpan29 - 08-30-2006, 06:52 PM
Re: Shocker unmasked - by Ebony - 08-30-2006, 08:55 PM
Re: Shocker unmasked - by Necratoid - 08-30-2006, 09:24 PM
Re: Shocker unmasked - by Acyl - 08-31-2006, 05:36 AM
Re: Shocker: Legit discussion - by Epsilon - 08-31-2006, 08:49 AM
Re: Shocker: Legit discussion - by Deadpan29 - 08-31-2006, 01:37 PM
Re: Shocker: Legit discussion - by Sirrocco - 09-03-2006, 03:40 AM
Re: Punisher - by VladimirTherin - 09-03-2006, 05:10 AM
Re: Punisher - by WengFook - 09-04-2006, 03:51 AM
Re: Punisher - by Necratoid - 09-07-2006, 09:04 AM
Re: Alignment - by Vincent Ursus - 09-07-2006, 12:08 PM
Re: Alignment - by Sirrocco - 09-10-2006, 01:28 AM

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