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Macross SEED
Re: Building a Framework
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Singer girl is not an irritating bimbo?
Well, since we want the triangle to be a source of tension rather than an obnoxious farce, no. For that matter, I'm thinking of her sound as more 'Amy Lee of Evanescence covers early Bon Jovi' than J-pop. (after all, look at it this way: which'd make more of an impression on you: 'My Boyfriend's a Pilot' or 'Living on a Prayer'?)
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What about singer girl's power-hungry pseudo-pacifist jerk cousin?
Only if we get to kill him off horribly. */jk* Actually, I was limiting myself to important characters.
Other thoughts I had during the multi-hour drive home from Marshall for Thanksgiving:
I think that the VF-1 is so utterly emblematic of Macross in general and Space War One in particular that avoiding it would be not only impossible, but wrong. That said, I also think that we'd be well advised to go with the better-fleshed-out VF-0 from the recent prequel OAVs - just because I don't think you could possibly get a cooler version that's still recognizable as the same mech. The Super's FAST packs will get a redesign - I have sketches, or will shortly, anyway - and I'd vote to replace the hideous/silly 'Full Armor' variant with an atmospheric FAST set - which I've already done preliminaries for.
Personally, there are several aspects of the SDF-1's proportions and design that have always bothered me - particularly the arrangement and relative scale of the engines and the mere existence of that whole transformation thing. Whether or not it gets a redesign of its own is something I'll put out on the table for discussion for now.
Erm... 'Zentraedi' mecha (and, BTW, are we keeping the names from the original or creating a nominally new universe, the way SEED itself did?): Ditch the whole 'Battle Pod' bullshit! After all, if the entire point of having Zentraedi be that big is that they can fight mecha hand-to-hand, why throw that advantage away by putting them in a vehicle rather than a powersuit? I'd say replace the whole spectrum of gear (yes, including the Female Power Armor - the thing's ugly as sin) and replace it with four different suit types (divided trooper and command, male and female), each of which would only carry one or two weapons rather than having them built in (after all, how the heck do you -control- a setup like that?)
'Desdroid' is an adaptation of 'Demeter-Sikorsky Android' - "the DeS 'droid". The basic chassis has two plantigrade legs and associated powertrain, cockpit, reactor, some reaction mass, and thrusters powerful enough to maneuver in space or fall with style on Earth. It also has eight hot-swappable weapons hardpoints of varying size - four small 'bolt on' type points on the shoulders and outer thighs, two in the outer chest, where the Gladiator and Tomahawk have their missile bays, and the biggest two where the arms end abruptly at the elbows. ^_^
The pods I've thought up can be divided into small, medium, large...
Small can be an AMS system, an electronic warfare pod, a scanner pod, a 'light' gunpod (about 30mm or so), six heavy anti-mecha missiles (compare the real world Maverick), four anti-shipping missiles (a la the real Exocet and its competitors), ten anti-aircraft missiles (which'd be what the canon Macross medium missiles would count as) or seven fairly dumb artillery missiles (the USA's M-270 MLRS.)
Medium can have either a double or triple mount of the 'small' types (varies by weapon - eight shipkillers or fourteen artillery rockets, but thirty SAMs and eighteen 'botbusters - and can be mix-n-matched at that level, too, frex, ten SAMs, a gunpod, and an AMS), but adds the possibility of a heavier gunpod (like a light naval piece) or an energy weapon (probably a laser).
Large is about three times the size of a medium - multiply lighter weapon numbers by the appriate amount and there you are - and adds things like heavy gatling cannon (~75mm, say) with a metric assload of ammunition for the air defense role, or heavy particle guns like the Tomahawk's for line combat.
Mrg. I've got more to say about wierd-ass alien tech and scientific realism, but it's late and my feet are cold.
See you in the morning, folks.
Ja, -n
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Macross SEED - by Valles - 11-19-2005, 02:53 AM
Re: New Concept - by ECSNorway - 11-19-2005, 03:32 AM
Re: New Concept - by Valles - 11-19-2005, 04:03 AM
Building a Framework - by Valles - 11-19-2005, 04:22 AM
Re: Building a Framework - by Bob Schroeck - 11-19-2005, 06:17 AM
Re: Building a Framework - by DHBirr - 11-19-2005, 10:00 AM
Re: Building a Framework - by Valles - 11-19-2005, 10:59 AM
Re: Building a Framework - by Bob Schroeck - 11-19-2005, 06:54 PM
Re: Building a Framework - by Bob Schroeck - 11-19-2005, 06:59 PM
Re: Building a Framework - by Black Aeronaut - 11-19-2005, 10:26 PM
Re: Building a Framework - by Valles - 11-19-2005, 11:06 PM
Re: Re: Building a Framework - by Valles - 11-20-2005, 01:58 AM
Re: Re: Building a Framework - by jpub - 11-20-2005, 02:05 AM
Naming Conventions - by Valles - 11-20-2005, 02:46 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 11-20-2005, 02:57 AM
Re: Re: Building a Framework - by Valles - 11-20-2005, 03:55 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by drakensis - 11-20-2005, 04:14 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by Valles - 11-20-2005, 05:08 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by ECSNorway - 11-20-2005, 06:39 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by Valles - 11-20-2005, 07:57 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by Bob Schroeck - 11-20-2005, 08:54 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by ClassicDrogn - 11-20-2005, 10:27 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by Valles - 11-20-2005, 11:08 AM
Re: New Concept - by drakensis - 11-20-2005, 02:24 PM
Re: New Concept - by Valles - 11-20-2005, 09:24 PM
Re: Naming Conventions - by WengFook - 11-20-2005, 09:42 PM
Re: New Concept - by Bob Schroeck - 11-20-2005, 11:53 PM
Finnish names - by drakensis - 11-21-2005, 02:59 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by ClassicDrogn - 11-21-2005, 04:04 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by M Fnord - 11-21-2005, 04:29 AM
Re: Finnish names - by ECSNorway - 11-21-2005, 05:14 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by Valles - 11-21-2005, 05:19 AM
Royal Navy ship names - by drakensis - 11-21-2005, 12:03 PM
Re: Royal Navy ship names - by ECSNorway - 11-21-2005, 06:07 PM
Episode 1 Teaser - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 12:10 AM
Re: Episode 1 Teaser - by ECSNorway - 11-22-2005, 12:35 AM
Re: Naming Conventions - by ClassicDrogn - 11-22-2005, 12:35 AM
SDF-1 - by drakensis - 11-22-2005, 01:14 AM
Re: SDF-1 - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 01:47 AM
FAST packs - by ClassicDrogn - 11-22-2005, 01:51 AM
Updating symbols? - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 11-22-2005, 02:03 AM
Re: SDF-1 - by ClassicDrogn - 11-22-2005, 02:18 AM
Re: FAST packs - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 02:25 AM
Random Bits - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 11-22-2005, 02:42 AM
Macross Transformation - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 02:54 AM
Re: Random Bits - by ECSNorway - 11-22-2005, 02:59 AM
Re: Random Bits - by ClassicDrogn - 11-22-2005, 03:35 AM
Re: Episode 1 Teaser - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 04:00 AM
Re: Random Bits - by drakensis - 11-22-2005, 04:05 AM
Re: Random Bits - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 11-22-2005, 04:23 AM
Re: Random Bits - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 04:44 AM
Re: Random Bits - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 05:09 AM
Re: Random Bits - by ECSNorway - 11-22-2005, 05:35 AM
Re: Random Bits - by ClassicDrogn - 11-22-2005, 07:12 AM
Re: Random Bits - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 08:17 AM
Re: Random Bits - by ClassicDrogn - 11-22-2005, 09:00 AM
Re: Random Bits - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 09:31 AM
Re: Random Bits - by ECSNorway - 11-22-2005, 09:43 AM
Esperanza Class - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 10:17 AM
Re: Random Bits - by ClassicDrogn - 11-22-2005, 10:30 AM
Re: Random Bits - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Re: Random Bits - by ClassicDrogn - 11-22-2005, 10:55 AM
Re: Random Bits - by drakensis - 11-22-2005, 01:07 PM
Re: Random Bits - by VladimirTherin - 11-22-2005, 05:17 PM
Re: Random Bits - by ECSNorway - 11-22-2005, 06:16 PM
Re: Random Bits - by ECSNorway - 11-22-2005, 07:32 PM
Re: Random Bits - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 08:21 PM
Re: Random Bits - by ECSNorway - 11-22-2005, 08:49 PM
Re: EDTO Logo - by M Fnord - 11-22-2005, 10:51 PM
Re: EDTO Logo - by Valles - 11-22-2005, 11:08 PM
Re: EDTO Logo - by M Fnord - 11-23-2005, 02:12 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by Valles - 11-23-2005, 02:23 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by ClassicDrogn - 11-23-2005, 02:43 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by Valles - 11-23-2005, 05:36 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by ClassicDrogn - 11-23-2005, 05:54 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by ECSNorway - 11-23-2005, 06:18 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by DKnight54 - 11-23-2005, 06:20 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by Valles - 11-23-2005, 06:44 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by ECSNorway - 11-23-2005, 06:48 AM
submarine gunships - by Rieverre - 11-23-2005, 06:56 AM
Re: Macross SEED - by M Fnord - 11-23-2005, 06:59 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by Valles - 11-23-2005, 06:59 AM
Re: submarine gunships - by M Fnord - 11-23-2005, 07:12 AM
awww - by Rieverre - 11-23-2005, 07:13 AM
Re: EDTO Logo - by ClassicDrogn - 11-23-2005, 07:24 AM
Re: submarine gunships - by Valles - 11-23-2005, 08:18 AM
Re: submarine gunships - by ECSNorway - 11-23-2005, 07:56 PM
Annoyed at IE - by Valles - 11-23-2005, 11:03 PM
Re: Annoyed at IE - by ECSNorway - 11-24-2005, 12:21 AM
Re: Annoyed at IE - by Star Ranger4 - 11-24-2005, 12:48 AM
Re: Annoyed at IE - by Valles - 11-24-2005, 12:55 AM
Names - by Acyl - 11-24-2005, 04:12 PM
Macross SEED: Episode 101 - Hasshin! - by Valles - 11-25-2005, 12:32 AM
Re: Names - by drakensis - 11-25-2005, 02:03 AM
Re: Names - by Acyl - 11-25-2005, 02:43 AM
Re: Macross SEED - by ClassicDrogn - 11-25-2005, 05:40 AM
Re: Macross SEED - by Valles - 11-25-2005, 06:19 AM
Re: Macross SEED - by M Fnord - 11-25-2005, 09:10 AM
Crunching the Numbers - by Valles - 11-25-2005, 10:44 AM
Re: Crunching the Numbers - by M Fnord - 11-25-2005, 12:11 PM
random idea - by Rieverre - 11-25-2005, 04:45 PM
Re: Crunching the Numbers - by Valles - 11-25-2005, 08:30 PM
Re: Crunching the Numbers - by M Fnord - 11-26-2005, 12:57 AM
Re: Crunching the Numbers - by ClassicDrogn - 11-26-2005, 02:45 AM
Re: Crunching the Numbers - by M Fnord - 11-26-2005, 03:02 AM
Re: Crunching the Numbers - by Valles - 11-26-2005, 09:11 AM
A thought I've been batting about - by Valles - 11-27-2005, 09:18 AM
Re: A thought I've been batting about - by Valles - 11-28-2005, 03:19 AM
sw33t - by Rieverre - 11-28-2005, 06:00 PM
Re: sw33t - by ClassicDrogn - 11-28-2005, 10:38 PM
Re: sw33t - by Valles - 11-29-2005, 03:28 AM
Re: sw33t - by Black Aeronaut - 11-29-2005, 03:51 AM
Re: sw33t - by Valles - 11-29-2005, 06:31 AM
Re: sw33t - by Black Aeronaut - 11-30-2005, 12:19 AM
Re: sw33t - by Valles - 11-30-2005, 03:24 AM
Re: sw33t - by ClassicDrogn - 11-30-2005, 11:16 PM
Badonga! - by Black Aeronaut - 12-01-2005, 03:39 AM
Re: Badonga! - by ClassicDrogn - 12-01-2005, 03:52 AM
Re: Badonga! - by Black Aeronaut - 12-01-2005, 04:13 AM
Re: Badonga! - by Valles - 12-01-2005, 04:21 AM
Re: Badonga! - by Bob Schroeck - 12-01-2005, 09:55 PM
Re: Badonga! - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Re: Badonga! - by DHBirr - 12-02-2005, 12:19 AM
Re: Badonga! - by Valles - 12-02-2005, 12:59 AM
Re: Badonga! - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-07-2005, 07:40 AM
Re: Badonga! - by DKnight54 - 12-07-2005, 11:51 AM
Re: Badonga! - by Valles - 12-07-2005, 12:18 PM
Re: Badonga! - by DHBirr - 12-07-2005, 10:12 PM
Macross SEED: Episode 102, scene 2 - by Valles - 06-30-2006, 08:50 PM
sleep is good - by Guest - 06-30-2006, 10:20 PM
Re: Changes... - by DKnight54 - 07-02-2006, 09:44 PM
Re: Changes... - by Valles - 07-02-2006, 11:56 PM
Handwaving - by DKnight54 - 07-03-2006, 01:28 AM
Re: Handwaving - by Valles - 07-03-2006, 02:40 AM
Re: Reality vs Fun - by DKnight54 - 07-03-2006, 04:07 AM
Re: Reality vs Fun - by drakensis - 07-03-2006, 10:51 AM
Re: Reality vs Fun - by Florin - 07-03-2006, 07:48 PM
Re: Reality vs Fun - by ClassicDrogn - 07-03-2006, 09:59 PM

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