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plotbunny at crunchtime
Re: I GOT IT!!
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ETA: Discussion of names on the Toad Summoning Scroll - looks like Yondaime's name might well be Kayaku
*nodnod* I'd seen that before, yeah, and been planning to use it.
Incidentally, the goal of making TGNH the next 'door' over from TXYH obligates me to go into a lot of detail that I've had lurking in the background but never really had a chance to go into.
The first thing that matters is that I interpret the canon Naruto universe as having a noticeable amount of chakra-based technologies, most of which end up being packaged in coincidentally familiar ways. Non-chakra tech is circa 500 AD or so in most fields - their Industrial Revolution hasn't happened yet.
That means that agricultural productivity is very low, Konoha is a relatively large city, most everything is both handmade and relatively expensive, and there's an unbelievable amount of scutwork that's being done by hand.
Now take that situation and toss in someone who's had access to concepts like mechanical harvesters, cotton mills, production lines, and washing machines. Then give him a direct line into the ear of the most powerful man in Konoha...
Really all N. had to do was introduce the idea that a machine could perform a task involving rote motion faster and more efficiently than human labor, and the Revolution was off and running - and our story doesn't pick up until twelve years later.
Erm... straight from my notes:

Konoha Heirarchy
Hokage - Sandaime
Administrative Council - Dept. Heads and Clan Heads, chaired by those old farts that tried to draft Jiraiya as Godaime.
ANBU - Morino Ibiki (Interrogation Specialist) - Asassination missions, Oinin; direct command of Hokage
11 Jounin
12 Medics
24 Chuunin
Medical - Mitarashi Anko (Psychology Specialist) - Health care, mental health and therapy, orphanage, research and development
~5 Doctors (Jounin medics)
~15 Medics (Chunin level)
~30 Genin (assistants, trainees)
~200 non-ninja support personnel
Archives - Bakusuta Neshan (Fuuinjutsu Specialist) - Assembly, coalation, organization, storage and protection of everything Konoha knows and learns. Also handles schools.
2 Jounin
~15 Chuunin (one jounin and 1/3 of the Chuunin guarding the archives building, 24/7/365, no exceptions)
~20 Genin
~20 civilians
Intelligence - Gekkou Hayate (Infiltration Specialist) - Spies and counterspies.
~5 Jounin
~20 Chuunin
~15 Genin
~200 civilian analysts
Operations - Shiranui Genma () - most A and B missions, all C and D missions. Also the 'standing army', as it were - report to the Council, rather than directly to the Hokage.
~15 Jounin
~40 Chuunin
~70 Genin
Police - Aburame Ebisu ('Forensics' Specialist) - Peacekeeping, internal affairs. The branch that interacts with civilians most often, since they do that for all of Konoha.
~3 Jounin
~10 Chuunin
~20 Genin
~100 civilians
10 Clan Heads
1 Civil Government Representative

Totals:
40-50 Jounin
120-130 Chuunin
150-160 Genin
310-330 Overall, with about twice that many reservists, about 90% of them genin-level (there's a tax break for keeping in practice after academy graduation)

Under wartime conditions, rank was a matter of power and combat ability - you kicked a given amount of ass, you got the promotion. After the war, this changed somewhat, requiring leadership skills, good judgement, and, after the Aoi incident, proof of loyalty.
Tokubetsu Jounin are not Jounin-grade in all of their skills - N, for example, simply does not have the chakra reserves to manage Jounin-level Gen-and-Ninjutsu - but are required to meet the same psychological standards and are often better than the more generalized elites within their own fields - although that specialty need not neccessarily be a combat-related one. I have them as the leading staff officers to explain something odd we saw in the show - the ANBU addressed Anko as '-sama', which really wouldn't make sense for a Chuunin-plus talking to a Jounin-minus... unless there were another factor.
Erm... oh, Naruto's background.
I've had the Uzumaki as being a relatively recent immigrant family - Naruto's grandfather was a first-generation Stone-nin who had to flee after catching the wrong side of some internal politics. He had two kids - elder son Kayaku (yes, him), and younger daughter Surimi. Kayaku fell head over heels and married into one of Konoha's older clans, the Kagami, but his wife died in the Kyuubi's first attack and they never had any kids.
The Mitarashi, as a whole, can make the Hyuuga look laid-back (although their style about the whole thing tends to be more on the 'flame and brimstone' line), so they basically disowned Surimi's husband because he'd gone and married a piece of immigrant filth (Why, yes, Anko has got a serious case of rebellion), which means that they wouldn't acknowledge Naruto as family even without his tenant in the picture.
Husband and both grandparents died during the kitsune debacle, but Surimi actually survived - she didn't die until Naruto was almost three, although I really haven't decided what of, yet.
...there were other things, but I've forgotten what they were, now. ^_^;
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ETA2: Now that I think of it, if I do knock Sasuke out in the prelims, Serenoty is probably the only other person besides Naruto who'd have a chance at surviving fighting Gaara...
Temari and Kankura would forfeit ASAP, and I can see Shino trying a couple of different approaches, thinking his options over, and then doing the same thing.
OTOH, that would deprive us of the chance to clobber psycho-boy with a nine-foot-wide pink heart, and we can't hav ethat, can we?
Ja, -n
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plotbunny at crunchtime - by Rieverre - 07-19-2005, 08:19 PM
What if...... - by ordnance11 - 07-23-2005, 07:52 PM
What if... - by drakensis - 07-24-2005, 12:35 AM
Re: What if... - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 01:17 AM
Re: What if... - by ClassicDrogn - 07-24-2005, 03:18 AM
Re: What if... - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 03:51 AM
Re: What if... - by ClassicDrogn - 07-24-2005, 05:02 AM
Re: What if... - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 06:15 AM
Re: What if... - by ClassicDrogn - 07-24-2005, 08:03 AM
Re: What if... - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 08:48 AM
Re: What if... - by drakensis - 07-24-2005, 08:58 AM
Re: What if... - by ClassicDrogn - 07-24-2005, 10:30 AM
Re: What if... - by drakensis - 07-24-2005, 12:16 PM
Re: What if... - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 05:03 PM
Re: What if... - by Acyl - 07-24-2005, 05:52 PM
twitch, twitch - by Rieverre - 07-24-2005, 06:35 PM
re: twitch-twitch - by Foxboy - 07-24-2005, 07:00 PM
Obtaining the Kage Bunshin - by ClassicDrogn - 07-24-2005, 07:18 PM
Rikou's skills - by ClassicDrogn - 07-24-2005, 08:05 PM
skills in general - by Rieverre - 07-24-2005, 08:37 PM
Re: Obtaining the Kage Bunshin - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 08:54 PM
Re: Rikou's skills - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 09:14 PM
Neji's secret lust for spandex - by Rieverre - 07-24-2005, 09:50 PM
Re: Neji's secret lust for spandex - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 10:05 PM
Re: skills in general - by ClassicDrogn - 07-24-2005, 10:41 PM
Re: skills in general - by Rieverre - 07-24-2005, 11:07 PM
Re: skills in general - by Valles - 07-24-2005, 11:08 PM
Re: skills in general - by Rieverre - 07-24-2005, 11:15 PM
Re: skills in general - by ClassicDrogn - 07-25-2005, 02:14 AM
Re: skills in general - by Valles - 07-25-2005, 07:03 AM
Re: skills in general - by ClassicDrogn - 07-25-2005, 07:23 AM
Re: Zabusa - by drakensis - 07-25-2005, 11:46 AM
Re: Zabusa - by Rieverre - 07-25-2005, 02:08 PM
Re: Zabusa - by Valles - 07-25-2005, 04:23 PM
Re: Zabusa - by Rieverre - 07-25-2005, 04:47 PM
Re: Zabusa - by Valles - 07-25-2005, 05:07 PM
Re: Zabusa - by ClassicDrogn - 07-25-2005, 05:33 PM
Re: Zabusa - by Valles - 07-25-2005, 06:43 PM
Re: Zabusa - by Rieverre - 07-25-2005, 09:53 PM
A cameo of my very own! - by Valles - 07-25-2005, 11:05 PM
Cameo? ME? Nah. - by Foxboy - 07-26-2005, 04:56 AM
Re: Cameo? ME? Nah. - by Valles - 07-26-2005, 05:34 AM
Re: Cameo? ME? Nah. - by ClassicDrogn - 07-26-2005, 05:36 AM
Re: Cameo? ME? Nah. - by Valles - 07-26-2005, 06:34 AM
Re: Cameo? ME? Nah. - by ClassicDrogn - 07-26-2005, 06:56 AM
Re: Cameo? ME? Nah. - by Valles - 07-26-2005, 07:19 AM
Mission - by drakensis - 07-26-2005, 10:07 AM
Re: A cameo of my very own! - by drakensis - 07-26-2005, 10:21 AM
Re: Zabusa - by The Hunterminator - 07-26-2005, 02:04 PM
Re: Zabusa - by ClassicDrogn - 07-26-2005, 02:52 PM
RE: the good old dealie - by Foxboy - 07-26-2005, 06:31 PM
Mission Report - by ClassicDrogn - 07-26-2005, 06:47 PM
Mission assignments - by ClassicDrogn - 07-27-2005, 09:20 PM
Re: Mission assignments - by drakensis - 07-30-2005, 12:19 AM
Re: Mission assignments - by ClassicDrogn - 07-30-2005, 01:15 AM
Re: Mission assignments - by Valles - 07-30-2005, 04:19 AM
Re: Mission assignments - by ClassicDrogn - 07-30-2005, 04:47 AM
Re: Mission assignments - by Valles - 07-30-2005, 05:04 AM
Re: Mission assignments - by ClassicDrogn - 07-30-2005, 06:01 AM
Re: Mistraining - by drakensis - 07-30-2005, 10:10 AM
Re: Mission assignments - by Acyl - 07-30-2005, 04:23 PM
Re: plotbunny at crunchtime - by ClassicDrogn - 07-30-2005, 09:08 PM
Re: plotbunny at crunchtime - by Valles - 07-30-2005, 09:20 PM
Looking unreasonably far ahead - by ClassicDrogn - 01-10-2006, 08:47 AM
Re: Looking unreasonably far ahead - by Valles - 01-10-2006, 05:57 PM
Re: Looking unreasonably far ahead - by Valles - 01-10-2006, 09:35 PM
Katsu's team - by Rieverre - 01-10-2006, 10:13 PM
Re: Katsu's team - by ClassicDrogn - 01-10-2006, 11:59 PM
Re: Katsu's team - by ClassicDrogn - 01-11-2006, 02:10 AM
Re: Katsu's team - by Valles - 01-11-2006, 03:22 AM
Re: Katsu's team and other Senshi DCs - by Valles - 01-11-2006, 12:34 PM
Re: Katsu's team and other Senshi DCs - by Valles - 01-11-2006, 06:41 PM
... Sail away ... - by Rieverre - 01-11-2006, 10:49 PM
Re: ... Sail away ... - by ClassicDrogn - 01-11-2006, 11:08 PM
... sword shadows ... - by Rieverre - 01-12-2006, 12:40 AM
Damnati - by Valles - 01-12-2006, 01:45 AM
I GOT IT!! - by ClassicDrogn - 01-12-2006, 04:45 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by Valles - 01-12-2006, 05:16 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by ClassicDrogn - 01-12-2006, 05:30 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by Valles - 01-12-2006, 09:58 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by ClassicDrogn - 01-12-2006, 06:13 PM
tidbit - by ClassicDrogn - 01-12-2006, 11:29 PM
Re: tidbit - by Rieverre - 01-12-2006, 11:40 PM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by Valles - 01-13-2006, 02:59 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by ClassicDrogn - 01-13-2006, 08:14 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by Valles - 01-13-2006, 09:35 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by ClassicDrogn - 01-13-2006, 01:40 PM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by Valles - 01-13-2006, 09:01 PM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by ClassicDrogn - 01-13-2006, 11:23 PM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by Valles - 01-14-2006, 12:34 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by drakensis - 01-14-2006, 01:06 AM
Re: I GOT IT!! - by ClassicDrogn - 01-14-2006, 01:23 AM
Left at Albequerque - by ClassicDrogn - 01-14-2006, 06:49 AM
Re: Left at Albequerque - by Valles - 01-14-2006, 07:30 AM
Re: Left at Albequerque - by ClassicDrogn - 01-14-2006, 08:26 AM
Re: Left at Albequerque - by Valles - 01-14-2006, 08:40 PM
throwing off random ideas - by Rieverre - 01-14-2006, 10:38 PM
Re: throwing off random ideas - by ClassicDrogn - 01-15-2006, 12:46 AM
Re: Summoning the Sandaime - by drakensis - 01-15-2006, 03:38 AM
Re: Summoning the Sandaime - by Rieverre - 01-15-2006, 04:26 AM
Re: Summoning the Sandaime - by ClassicDrogn - 01-15-2006, 08:14 AM
Re: Summoning the Sandaime - by Valles - 01-15-2006, 09:48 AM
Re: Summoning the Sandaime - by ClassicDrogn - 01-15-2006, 10:18 AM
Chidori - by Rieverre - 01-16-2006, 11:28 PM
Re: Chidori - by ClassicDrogn - 01-17-2006, 12:01 AM
order of battle - by Rieverre - 01-17-2006, 01:19 AM
Re: order of battle - by ClassicDrogn - 01-17-2006, 02:08 AM
Re: order of battle - by Rieverre - 01-17-2006, 02:34 AM
Re: order of battle - by Valles - 01-17-2006, 03:05 AM
Re: order of battle - by ClassicDrogn - 01-17-2006, 03:33 AM
Re: order of battle - by ClassicDrogn - 01-17-2006, 07:53 AM
dawning thoughts - by Rieverre - 01-20-2006, 02:41 AM
Re: dawning thoughts - by ClassicDrogn - 01-20-2006, 05:30 AM
Re: dawning thoughts - by Valles - 01-20-2006, 06:14 AM
Re: dawning thoughts - by ClassicDrogn - 01-20-2006, 08:24 AM
Re: dawning thoughts - by Valles - 01-20-2006, 08:50 AM
Re: dawning thoughts - by ClassicDrogn - 01-20-2006, 10:13 AM
Anko's filler arc (anime ep169) - by ClassicDrogn - 01-26-2006, 01:53 PM
back in the village - by Rieverre - 01-27-2006, 05:31 PM
Re: back in the village - by ClassicDrogn - 01-27-2006, 09:13 PM
Backstory - by ClassicDrogn - 01-29-2006, 12:57 AM
Re: back in the village - by Necratoid - 01-29-2006, 01:46 AM
Re: back in the village - by ClassicDrogn - 01-29-2006, 02:04 AM
Transferred by permission - by ClassicDrogn - 01-29-2006, 03:11 AM
Re: Transferred by permission - by Rieverre - 01-29-2006, 03:36 AM
Re: back in the village - by drakensis - 01-29-2006, 12:51 PM
Re: back in the village - by ClassicDrogn - 01-29-2006, 09:59 PM
Re: Out of my head you stupid rabbit. - by Necratoid - 01-31-2006, 05:35 AM
Re: Out of my head you stupid rabbit. - by Necratoid - 02-01-2006, 03:57 AM
Anko's anime filler arc, ep170 - by ClassicDrogn - 02-03-2006, 07:06 AM
Government of Fire Country - by ClassicDrogn - 03-22-2006, 08:09 PM
Re: Government of Fire Country - by drakensis - 03-23-2006, 11:27 AM
Re: Government of Fire Country - by ClassicDrogn - 03-23-2006, 12:04 PM
Outtake - by ClassicDrogn - 07-17-2006, 01:23 PM
Re: Outtake - by ClassicDrogn - 07-18-2006, 11:19 AM
Re: Outtake - by ClassicDrogn - 07-18-2006, 11:39 AM
Re: Outtake - by Rieverre - 07-18-2006, 11:54 AM
Re: Outtake - by ClassicDrogn - 07-18-2006, 12:01 PM
Re: Outtake - by ClassicDrogn - 07-18-2006, 12:15 PM
Re: Outtake - by Angryoptimist - 07-18-2006, 10:41 PM
Re: Outtake - by ClassicDrogn - 07-19-2006, 12:14 AM
Tee-hee. - by Sirrocco - 07-21-2006, 08:01 AM
Re: Tee-hee - by drakensis - 07-21-2006, 10:33 AM
Re: Tee-hee - by ClassicDrogn - 07-21-2006, 12:47 PM
Re: plotbunny at crunchtime - by ClassicDrogn - 07-29-2006, 11:37 PM
How catchy is it? - by ClassicDrogn - 08-01-2006, 06:13 PM
Phrase I don't want to forget - by ClassicDrogn - 08-02-2006, 11:03 AM
re: Phrase I don't want to forget - by drakensis - 08-03-2006, 08:56 AM

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