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Hybrid Theory
Re: Hybrid Theory
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We've seen Ranma get drugged, by Kodachi, among others; he can certainly be poisoned. If the delivery mechanism kills a few hundred bystanders as well, so be it. Governments are quite willing to tolerate collateral damage.
Which government is this you're talking about?
Living in Canada and being quite familiar with an attempt by a few armed people to overthrow the government I can say that in this modern age, Canada would look very poorly on the government that killed one hundred people to kill one criminal. No matter how dangeorus the criminal is. Heck, in this day and age people get pissed when we kill a hundred foreigners in pursuit of peacekeeping.
I can certainly see, say, North Korea being willing to do that, however.
As to whether or not Ranma can be drugged effectively. We don't know, really. He can be drugged but this is by drugs that Kodachi, Pink and Link and other superhuman characters in the series use. Thus, since we have no idea which drugs are used and whether they were enhanced in some fashion we don't know his resistance to normal drugs. We do know he can drink far more saki than a person of his body weight would suggest and be only mildly intoxicated. Plus, there is the very real possiblity that if you tried to drug, say, Kodachi the effect would backfire on you spectacularly.
It should also be noted that Ranma is able to throw off the effects of the drugs he is exposed to a lot quicker than people expected him to. Obviusly he has some resistance to it.
And all it takes is one martial artist surviving to really screw you over.
Imagine a single person with the following power set: Complete invisbility. The ability to move faster than human beings can react. The ability to kill at range without any form of detectable weapon, and kill entire rooms full of people at the same time.
Frankly while Ranma is unlikely to do it, anybody with his powerset and the intelligence (and willingness) to use it properly could cripple a government in a few weeks. How? Assassination. Imagine if the President, Vice-President and every member of congress died all within the space of a week. Then kill every general in the US Armed Forces.
Nothing can stop them. Underground bunkers? Bakusaitenketsu. Bodygaurds? Invisibility, superspeed, perfect disguises.
Did you see the beginning of the second X-Men movie were Nightcrawler almost single-handedly kills the president? Picture that but worse.
Frankly, the best bet for a government to do is to recruit the martial artists. And, I think that in the Ranma 1/2 universe this may not be far from what actually happens.
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Turning physical might into secular power isn't that easy.

Its amazingly easy, when you reach a certain level of physical power. If I can kill anyone I want, at anytime, and there is no chance of you stopping me I have all the secular power I want. Certainly I can't be everywhere at once, but you know what? I don't have to be. All I have to do is hear about someone not doing what I want and killl them. Fear is a very effective strategy for controlling your underlings.

Re: The idea of gods having multipel avatars etc:
This is not a statement of fact. Since there are neither gods nor monsters in the real world anything you say about them is pure speculation. I could just as easily say that the reason there are three Orochi is because of Plot Rays. Plot Rays are a mysterious energy force in the uinverse that cause there to be three Orochis. How? Plot Rays.
The fact is however that there is no indication in Ranma 1/2 that the Orochi is anything but a giant monster in a lake. Any addition you make to this is beyond the scope of the Ranma series. Not saying you can't make an addition like that when you make a crossover. But the fact is that you HAVE to.
Then you have to think about the consequences. If there really is a Crawling Chaos, a being much like a Great Old One in power that is using the various Orochi as its avatars then you can't just raise this issue as an explanation and abandon it. You have to deal with it.
In many cases you can jump through so many hoops when trying to produce a crossover that the point of the series BECOMES the crossover and how it occured. You want a simple romance story between Ranma and Sakura Kusagano? You have to do a lot of background work explaining how or why the plotliens and physical laws of both series have not interacted until this point. Maybe so much that your little romance plot becomes lost on the way.
Much easier to just create the character Kakura Susagano who has the same personality as the latter and just introduce her into Ranma 1/2 (or vice versa).
I don't mean to say that a crossover is impossible. Far from it. In fact, many of my favorite series have been crossover and my hobby is thinking up ways to combine what would otherwise be completely incompatible series using various justifications and world-building exercises.
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Or the Nanban mirror.
Since Hybrid Theory uses only the manga for continuity purpose, the Nanban mirror (and all associated baggage) does not exist.
And as to your question...

SPOILERS AHEAD!

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She was in a house owned by a
false identity she had been forced to go back in time thirty years to create.
This is a quote from Sailor Pluto in chapter seventeen. Apparently she went back in time thirty years, set up a flase identity, pruchased a home and ten went forward thirty years to use that identity to hide from Chronos et al.
Eveidently, time travel to a point in time previous to January-Feburary 1992 is possible. I believe (thought I;m not certain where) I actually had Pluto reference how she has gone back in time and killed Ukyou when she was a baby. However that has had no impact on the CURRENT timeline. Read into that what you will.
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Hybrid Theory - by Vialeh - 03-03-2006, 12:47 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Bob Schroeck - 03-03-2006, 03:47 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by robkelk - 03-05-2006, 08:49 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by HoagieOfDoom - 03-05-2006, 10:00 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by robkelk - 03-06-2006, 05:39 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by aeroprime - 03-06-2006, 08:18 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by ClassicDrogn - 03-07-2006, 09:11 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Crescend - 03-07-2006, 09:21 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by ClassicDrogn - 03-07-2006, 09:45 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Crescend - 03-07-2006, 10:17 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Vialeh - 03-08-2006, 05:08 AM
reading ... - by Rieverre - 03-08-2006, 05:54 AM
Re: reading - by Crescend - 03-08-2006, 07:13 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by robkelk - 03-08-2006, 07:17 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Necratoid - 03-08-2006, 07:26 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Epsilon - 03-09-2006, 04:58 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Necratoid - 03-09-2006, 04:55 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Bob Schroeck - 03-09-2006, 05:12 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Bob Schroeck - 03-09-2006, 05:15 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by ClassicDrogn - 03-09-2006, 05:44 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-09-2006, 11:12 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-09-2006, 11:45 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Rieverre - 03-10-2006, 01:15 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Epsilon - 03-10-2006, 01:55 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by ClassicDrogn - 03-10-2006, 02:16 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Valles - 03-10-2006, 02:41 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Bob Schroeck - 03-10-2006, 04:57 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Vincent Ursus - 03-11-2006, 07:49 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Bob Schroeck - 03-13-2006, 09:56 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-14-2006, 12:40 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by CattyNebulart - 03-15-2006, 05:09 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Bob Schroeck - 03-15-2006, 05:12 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-15-2006, 09:16 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Bob Schroeck - 03-20-2006, 10:22 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Epsilon - 03-21-2006, 05:53 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by VladimirTherin - 03-21-2006, 08:36 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by HoagieOfDoom - 03-21-2006, 09:07 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by ClassicDrogn - 03-21-2006, 09:46 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Necratoid - 03-21-2006, 02:13 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-21-2006, 10:23 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Custos Sophiae - 03-22-2006, 12:07 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-22-2006, 01:12 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 03-22-2006, 01:48 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Epsilon - 03-22-2006, 02:32 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 03-22-2006, 02:50 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-22-2006, 02:58 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 03-22-2006, 03:18 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Custos Sophiae - 03-22-2006, 04:11 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 03-22-2006, 04:52 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Epsilon - 03-22-2006, 05:31 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by ECSNorway - 03-22-2006, 05:43 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Epsilon - 03-22-2006, 05:53 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by robkelk - 03-22-2006, 06:02 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 03-22-2006, 06:10 AM
Hybrid Theory - by Valles - 03-22-2006, 06:14 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-22-2006, 06:25 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-22-2006, 06:27 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Necratoid - 03-22-2006, 08:55 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Florin - 03-22-2006, 02:41 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-22-2006, 09:22 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Bob Schroeck - 03-22-2006, 10:27 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Florin - 03-22-2006, 11:39 PM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Ayiekie - 03-23-2006, 01:28 AM
Re: Hybrid Theory - by Custos Sophiae - 03-23-2006, 04:50 AM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Darwithe - 03-23-2006, 05:24 AM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Necratoid - 03-23-2006, 09:13 AM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Ayiekie - 03-23-2006, 09:57 AM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Darwithe - 03-23-2006, 11:23 AM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Ayiekie - 03-23-2006, 12:46 PM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Necratoid - 03-23-2006, 06:32 PM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Darwithe - 03-23-2006, 10:19 PM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Epsilon - 03-24-2006, 12:35 AM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Darwithe - 03-24-2006, 02:49 AM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by Epsilon - 03-24-2006, 04:06 AM
Re: Jadeite's attack... - by robkelk - 03-24-2006, 07:07 AM
didn't we discuss this before? - by ordnance11 - 03-24-2006, 07:28 AM
Some thoughts. - by Rev Dark - 03-24-2006, 05:43 PM
Re: Some thoughts. - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 03-24-2006, 10:07 PM
Re: Some thoughts. - by ClassicDrogn - 03-24-2006, 11:29 PM
Re: Some thoughts. - by Bob Schroeck - 03-25-2006, 03:20 AM
Re: Some thoughts. - by Necratoid - 03-25-2006, 09:49 AM
It is the reader - not the world. - by Rev Dark - 03-25-2006, 06:49 PM
Re: It is the reader - not the world. - by Ayiekie - 03-25-2006, 09:23 PM
Re: It is the reader - not the world. - by Necratoid - 03-26-2006, 03:55 PM
Right. Moving right along, then... - by Ayiekie - 04-01-2006, 01:08 PM
Re: Right. Moving right along, then... - by CattyNebulart - 04-05-2006, 03:59 AM
Re: Right. Moving right along, then... - by CattyNebulart - 05-02-2006, 03:02 AM
Re: Right. Moving right along, then... - by Ayiekie - 05-02-2006, 03:35 AM
Yay update - by CattyNebulart - 05-02-2006, 05:33 AM

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