First, a species can't actually 'finish evolving' without dying off completely. Which is, looking back at your time line, your first logical fallacy. You have some weird notation about program locks on human genetic codes... only small bits can actually change and those don't matter. I know from your quotation marks that you understand this is not really true, but run with it anyway.
Which is further made weird, after looking back, because the Fanatics are actually acting exactly like the good Muslims (explained before previously) that you professed you didnt want to be an exact parallel of a modern Earth religion Convert or die is their creed. The details separating them are decorative icing on the issue. Not that Im stopping you, it makes sense, just that you should be aware of that situation/
Modern species that can be interbred in the this manner include lion/tiger (liger) and horse/donkey (mule (do I have the donkey and mule confused?))... all of which produce sterile offspring. Unless your idea is that these branches of humans are like branches of dog breeds... a whole lot are created in the past thousand years and the pure breeds are all screwed up. Which makes me think no.
Technically, its a matter of generations instead of years here... 50-80k (your minimum time range) is about 50k/15= 3,333 generations and 80k/15=5,333 generations of adapting to a different set environmental conditions (examples of which I previously wrote). They have to deal with different obstacles so different physical changes will occur.... the simplest of which is the biochemical ones for the local food sources. Which are worse than extra body parts for a pregnancy... unborn humans do go through a section with a tail. Even relatively minor changes of this biochemical nature will makes pregnancy rather unlikely. The internal environment is just too hostile.
Not that the middle ground case (sterile offspring) really matters too much for the immediate time line as the species will only have interacted for 6 years max and the oldest possible one is only 5 years old.
The glacial state they got taken from is largely irrelevant in your description of the worlds that the none Earthlings grew up (at the racial level) on they are hotter worlds that finished glaciating before Earth did. Unless Being on a smaller planet (lower gravity conditions) closer to their sun (or they have more moons to reflect sun light onto the planet or something) is somehow going to cause more ice ages. Again, I point to their thousands of generations of alternate evolution. To think other wise is involves some outside intervention meaning that the precursors left to check on a different section of seeded worlds later than suggested by the whole crystallized hyperspace weirdness.
Anatomically modern as of 80-50 thousand years of evolution ago, unless youre flubbing DNA as effectively statis locked somehow which you said you didnt. Again I am far more concerned with biochemical incompatibilities than minor physical one.
Removing the previously dominant species is a massive change in the gene pool I think this is a minor phrasement issue anyway. Not worth arguing over.
You do realize you just argued that a species wont be changed by a new environment in several decamillenia, because they can complain about it? Or maybe that being able to complain about it and make new tools will somehow prevent them from changing genetically or biochemically regardless of their new environment Either way *boogle*. The last thing I can think of is your idea of the process of seeding worlds is extremely different from my own.
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Which is further made weird, after looking back, because the Fanatics are actually acting exactly like the good Muslims (explained before previously) that you professed you didnt want to be an exact parallel of a modern Earth religion Convert or die is their creed. The details separating them are decorative icing on the issue. Not that Im stopping you, it makes sense, just that you should be aware of that situation/
Modern species that can be interbred in the this manner include lion/tiger (liger) and horse/donkey (mule (do I have the donkey and mule confused?))... all of which produce sterile offspring. Unless your idea is that these branches of humans are like branches of dog breeds... a whole lot are created in the past thousand years and the pure breeds are all screwed up. Which makes me think no.
Technically, its a matter of generations instead of years here... 50-80k (your minimum time range) is about 50k/15= 3,333 generations and 80k/15=5,333 generations of adapting to a different set environmental conditions (examples of which I previously wrote). They have to deal with different obstacles so different physical changes will occur.... the simplest of which is the biochemical ones for the local food sources. Which are worse than extra body parts for a pregnancy... unborn humans do go through a section with a tail. Even relatively minor changes of this biochemical nature will makes pregnancy rather unlikely. The internal environment is just too hostile.
Not that the middle ground case (sterile offspring) really matters too much for the immediate time line as the species will only have interacted for 6 years max and the oldest possible one is only 5 years old.
The glacial state they got taken from is largely irrelevant in your description of the worlds that the none Earthlings grew up (at the racial level) on they are hotter worlds that finished glaciating before Earth did. Unless Being on a smaller planet (lower gravity conditions) closer to their sun (or they have more moons to reflect sun light onto the planet or something) is somehow going to cause more ice ages. Again, I point to their thousands of generations of alternate evolution. To think other wise is involves some outside intervention meaning that the precursors left to check on a different section of seeded worlds later than suggested by the whole crystallized hyperspace weirdness.
Anatomically modern as of 80-50 thousand years of evolution ago, unless youre flubbing DNA as effectively statis locked somehow which you said you didnt. Again I am far more concerned with biochemical incompatibilities than minor physical one.
Removing the previously dominant species is a massive change in the gene pool I think this is a minor phrasement issue anyway. Not worth arguing over.
Quote:Err Um *stares at that for a few minutes* OW.
Point the fourth, it is a long, long step from 'different traits' to 'unable to breed', especially when an already existant, mutually shared trait (language and intelligence) is working to suppress the need behind the development of those further traits.
You do realize you just argued that a species wont be changed by a new environment in several decamillenia, because they can complain about it? Or maybe that being able to complain about it and make new tools will somehow prevent them from changing genetically or biochemically regardless of their new environment Either way *boogle*. The last thing I can think of is your idea of the process of seeding worlds is extremely different from my own.
Quote:So how did the feudalists get into space again
That's what I said, yes. Along with a sizable dash of the idea that such menial things were beneath the notice of anyone who was rich enough to afford an education that'd let them actually do something about it...
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Quote:In case your wondering at this point Florin you appear confused about what a chimp (chimpanzee) actually is, so note that chimpanzees are apes (no tails) and bonobos are monkeys.
A DNA difference of 1.2% is more than enough to prevent interspieces breeding yes, but it's also more than enough to change a tall hairless bipedal mammel into a small hairy primate with a tail.
Quote:This would involve ending up on a different planet within a different solar system perhaps? Like the stated scenario.
The kind of change that just doesn't happen without a massive shift in enviroment, probably resulting in a life form that's merely humanoid rather than human. Thus, wide scale genetic manipulation would be required to PREVENT interbreeding, not allow it.