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Quote: Jinx999 wrote:


Quote: ordnance11 wrote:

The Abh still use wormholes to go from one point to another. Maybe different drives methodology, but when you're talking about 500 years divergence,
eh. The Vorkosigan universe uses plasma ship weaponry and fusion shells. The Abh uses railguns and missles. Not too divergent technologies. Hell, some
forces in the Abh universe still use gunpowder small arms




As for polities and politics...the Abh were a bio engineered race designed for a life of deep space...same as the quaddies. Also the mother of the current
Cetagandan Emperor (Empress Lisbeth) had the goal of separating the Cetagandan into to competing halves. Now who is to say a previous ruler some
generations back had the same idea and managed to do it on the black.






The major astrogation difference is that Vorkosigan universe uses point to point wormoles, creating a chain of locations. The Abh wormholes lead into planar
space - and then you can go anywhere. These result in very different strateigic situations. As for politics - the Vorkosigan universe is filled with largely
independant worlds with radically different internal politics. The Abh universe has a choice of two different empires (the nominally democratic but with no
tolerance for difference, disent or genetic engineering United Mankind or the feudal but hands off Humankind Empire Abh), independant worlds will be
swallowed up by one or the other.




You could easily place an Abh like race of posthumans into the Vorkosiganverse and creating an isolated and recently recontacted world in the Abhverse would
be even easier (Jinto's from one for starters), but you'd have to be careful and not just try and merge the two universe's without thinking of
the consequences. For instance, the Abh are arguably better than the United Mankind, but are a bunch of imperialistic warmongers by Barrayar standards.
You can make the case of the drive the Abh uses to be an improvement over the dirtsiders. They do have a "third eye" which is
similar to the implants that jump pilots on the Vorkosigan uses..only much more better. They do need a wormhole to enter "planar space", but they can
pop out of it at any point of their choosing. I get the feeling from the anime that the United Mankind does not have an equivalent capability and need to go
point to point..which is probably the reason why the Abh where defending a wormhole point in Battleflag of the Stars.

As for the Abh being a bunch of imperialistic warmongers by Barrayan/Cetagandan standards..heheh. The Cetangandans conquered Barrayar in Pyotor's
Vorkorsigan's time and also did the same with the Marilac system in Mile's time. Aral Vorkorsigan conquered Komarr and was 2IC and later head of the
expedition to take Escobar. Both empires calling the Abh warmongers is like the kettle calling the pot black, no?
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A bunny or two. - by VladimirTherin - 02-08-2009, 02:00 PM
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A Harry Potter bunny... - by Bob Schroeck - 05-15-2009, 02:39 AM
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