Sirrocco,
Re: 177
The D&D Ranger will always be an abomination to me so long as a human must be evil to take Indians or Communists as a favored enemy. (Not to mention that I haven't heard of a good sourcebook with a proper listing of tribes by places and times of hostility, with levels of activity, so on and so forth. Indian, like white man, is far too broad a classification to really work when you are studying with all consuming enmity. So 'I hate this tribe, because of crimes their polity has committed against me and mine, but that tribe also hates this tribe, because of racism, so I can work with that tribe' tends to result.)
(In other words, Favored Enemy is the least distorted part of the class, and even that is a little wrong. In Middle-earth, most observed orcs tend to belong to a common societal background, as well as one of two major political factions. In other words, for that case Counter-society and counter-political faction overlap with counter-'Race'.)
Take a look at IIRC, Roger's Rules for Rangers. The required equipment list is different from the two melee or one ranged options that D&D uses. (IIRC, a long arm with associated gear, and a big fighting knife or hatchet.)
Then there is the whole Animal Companion nonsense. Rangers tend to be light infantry. Even the Texas Rangers, who used horses for transport, would have had a string of remounts rather than a single horse. (Of course, fiction likes to hand wave things, so you get things like the Lone Ranger and Silver.)
Characters in Nanoha are often named after cars. Mages in Nanoha are often modeled after mecha. I just noticed today that there was a car called the Skylark. There is something that can be vaguely considered a mecha by the name of Skylark. (Today means last week or longer, when I wrote the thing down.)
Short version: The author who wrote the Lensmen books, which inspired the Star Wars Jedi, also wrote a series which may have inspired the Death Star. Except that the Death Star was probably significantly nerfed in comparison.
'Yo Chlorine Breathers. I hear you like suns, so I put suns in your suns, so you can sun while you sun.'
I cannot figure out this crossover as of yet without doing one or the other property injustice. (I love Skylark, and like Nanoha. I may be being too much of a purist. My Little Skylark: Slaughter is Friendship.)
Take Rei Ayanami from Sic Semper Morituri, and have her perform a variation on Rorschasch's 'Save Us' monologue. '...then they'll say "Can I have my money back?" and I'll say "No".'
AMG/Devil Survivor 1
Bel-dandy
Which is to say, increment the number of the battle royale/gotta-kill-em-all by one.
Remember the Raj Whitehall books? There is a new one coming out, and that gave me the following lovely.
We've secretly repla... err, supplemented Center with certain of Drake's other characters. There's the 'I don't want to share headspace' options like Adele, maybe Alois, maybe Ilna, the 'I really don't want to share headspace' options like Tovera, Joachim, and so forth, the 'might actually be appropriate' options like Garric, Carus, Aide, and then there is the 'everybody Drake has ever mentioned as difficult to share headspace with, or as someone he chooses not to write for his own peace of mind' option.
Pick the last and dump on your poor bastard of choice.
If Nasu is the Japanese Stirling, think about a Fate/Dies The Fire cross. I stopped following the books, but I've heard some bits that suggest that it would only take a little fiddling to get things to work.
ZnT/Skylark: Louise summons Richard is pretty simple. Mechanical educator->language->teching up->going home->spaceliner to elsewhere & peaceful thinky aliens tech up the planet Now, Louise summons Marc goes into more plottish places. Maybe she can learn to pinch hit for Babydoll?
Necroscope of Justice League Unlimited Blade Works
Suppose that Doctor Ishida from Nanoha A's has some relation with Doctor Ishida from Bleach.
EMIYA Archer/Captain Archer was done in Erfworld, with hints of Quantum Leap.
Unlimited Food Porn is the name of a John Biles Fate fic.
http://www.thekeep.org/~wombat/Stories/ ... ayHime.txt
Russ Van Loan: Note that for time periods in the late nineteenth century, the total defeat of the National Rifle Association might amount to former confederates gaining uncontested control over the nation. So, ranging from CSA to Draka. Is this what you consider a utopian golden age?
Ebony,
Regarding #184, I am certain that my statement is correct.
Firstly, the methods for the cases you cite would probably be of the dispersal sort, the kinds of methods law enforcement might prefer to use. These sort of methods rely on human psychology being present. The other set of methods would be destroying or overwhelming the rioters with greater force. This latter sort of process does work better using more people rather than less, and heavy infantry rather than light. (I imagine the Texas Rangers may have also used these some. However, I don't think the horse era Texas Ranger troops were all that big. As for more recent times, I suspect that the government of Texas would prefer using the first sort over the second sort.)
I may be reading too much between my own lines, but for the case I was thinking of, methods that work for one to a few people would be pretty worthless. The case was rioters /possessed/ by demons, with hints of drugs. I was remembering something I'd read about how folks on a PCP rampage can only be reliably quickly stopped by a wide enough wound channel passing through the heart. I was also thinking of the 'zombies' in Ringo's Queen of Wands. For scale I was assuming 'more than enough to tear them to shreds'. Excluding the 'All the Red Rangers' episodes, I think a group of Power Rangers tends to run half dozen to a dozen. Five hundred or so would be a major issue for that number, I think. I was assuming no easy exorcism. My expectation was minimal risk of no one dying if a standard power ranger group were sent up against the rioters.
Addressing the next ambiguity, unspecified Ranger can be read many different ways. For me, the default is the light infantry concept recorded in Roger's Rules for Rangers. This trades, IIRC, protection and combat endurance for mobility, while preserving killing power. This is kind of the opposite of what one would want to be able to stand up to rioters in battle, especially if one does not want to escalate to lethal force. I can't speak to how well Army units of whatever sort, manned by graduates of Ranger school or otherwise, handle riots. I do not know anything about the tables of equipment for modern infantry. Power Rangers are more handwavey and dependent on authorial fiat. Give them something like Fujino Asagami/Elfenlied, and they can subdue the rioters with a good chance of killing many. Don't, and they haven't the manpower and equipment to do anything other than die. Note that I mentioned 'five'. As for the Texas Rangers, I'm sure that they are more than capable of stopping smaller riots by overwhelming force. My understanding is that they tend towards smaller numbers, widely distributed. I expect that, for sizable riots, if Texas could only resort to force, that they would prefer to grab a concentrated unit that trains more regularly with the usual sort of counter riot equipment.
We tend to equip people sent in for that with heavier protective equipment, and other gear, for a reason. Light infantry tends to drop armor and such because they can kill enemies faster that way. However, with rioters, for some reason, killing them is often not the desired outcome. Rioters have all sorts of ways of injuring a person, should they get their hands on them. Heavy protective gear, which probably would be lethally dangerous facing competent infantry, gives a significant margin of additional safety versus rioters. That, and a good supply of less lethal weapons mean that one can not only survive going against rioters without a plan to kill them, but safely subdue them in a way that leaves them alive. Even if killing the rioters is on the table, having tanks and IFVs rather than none, and having more weapons like machine guns and grenade launchers rather than less probably makes it a safer and more effective process.
What I've seen of Tokusatsu has generally had small numbers of masked heroes defeating larger numbers of mooks. I do not think that it is very in genre for numbers of 'mooks' in excess of thirty to one to dogpile the heroes and tear them to shreds. If the heroes do have the powers to deal with those sort of numbers, playing by realistic rules, then there is a pretty decent chance of at least some lethal consequences. My understanding is that the Power Rangers usually use easy exorcism versus armies of possessed citizens. Excluding that, if the heroes don't die, a slaughter seems likely. There may be a Tokusatsu series where the heroes freely slaughter potentially curable people who are not their enemies. If so, I haven't seen it.
0µ -12 BlazBlu, Touhou, maybe some Eva.
4X/Fate Stay Night.
You have researched Magecraft I
You have activated the leylines on Homeworld
You have found Command Ruins on Homeworld, where there was nothing before.
You can now summon the legendary homeworld of a great historical Empire.
Super Robot Wars Alpha Protocol
Super Robot Wars and the Boxcar Children. Because in the context of the former, the latter sound like the product of some sort of deranged super soldier program.
Bring Eva forward some score years, replacing Gendo and Yui with the Shiba siblings from the Irregular at Magic Highschool (Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei) light novels. Authorial fiat whether NERV cognate has set up a tenth Magic Highschool to house pilots. I dunno how messed up the Shiba siblings turn out to be, and that would probably be the most significant variable as to how this would turn out.
Fate Jojo/Persona Stands, Persona, and Servants. Same or different?
Buffy Halloween fic. Crossover with Otokojuku. Firstly, it would be most wrong if the one who goes as Edajima Heihachi, Principal of Otokojuku is Snyder, especially if the personality sticks afterwords. Someone must go as Edajima Heihachi. Secondly, IIRC, Sunnydale has a middle school, a high-school, and a university. Middle school cheerleaders are Otokojuku First Years, Highschool cheer-leading team are Second Years, and the College team are Third Years.
Getter Emperor of Mankind WH40K/Getter Robo
Last I'd checked, there are something like a dozen classes, across all of the sources Typemoon has approved that are mentioned on the wiki.
Berserkers are supposed to have snapped in life or in legend. I cannot recall Demona doing more than making poor choices in cold blood, which she regretted, and also acts of anger which she didn't regret. I dunno, authorial fiat.
I've also heard that heroes need to be extremely agile to qualify for Lancer.
Others
Beast-The Beast, summoned in Fate/Prototype
Monster-Shiki Ryougi, Fate/Extra
Avenger-Broke the grail third war
Saver-sort of opposite of the avenger class
Ruler-this was used as a war administrator in an AU war where there are two teams of seven facing off.
Re: 177
The D&D Ranger will always be an abomination to me so long as a human must be evil to take Indians or Communists as a favored enemy. (Not to mention that I haven't heard of a good sourcebook with a proper listing of tribes by places and times of hostility, with levels of activity, so on and so forth. Indian, like white man, is far too broad a classification to really work when you are studying with all consuming enmity. So 'I hate this tribe, because of crimes their polity has committed against me and mine, but that tribe also hates this tribe, because of racism, so I can work with that tribe' tends to result.)
(In other words, Favored Enemy is the least distorted part of the class, and even that is a little wrong. In Middle-earth, most observed orcs tend to belong to a common societal background, as well as one of two major political factions. In other words, for that case Counter-society and counter-political faction overlap with counter-'Race'.)
Take a look at IIRC, Roger's Rules for Rangers. The required equipment list is different from the two melee or one ranged options that D&D uses. (IIRC, a long arm with associated gear, and a big fighting knife or hatchet.)
Then there is the whole Animal Companion nonsense. Rangers tend to be light infantry. Even the Texas Rangers, who used horses for transport, would have had a string of remounts rather than a single horse. (Of course, fiction likes to hand wave things, so you get things like the Lone Ranger and Silver.)
Characters in Nanoha are often named after cars. Mages in Nanoha are often modeled after mecha. I just noticed today that there was a car called the Skylark. There is something that can be vaguely considered a mecha by the name of Skylark. (Today means last week or longer, when I wrote the thing down.)
Short version: The author who wrote the Lensmen books, which inspired the Star Wars Jedi, also wrote a series which may have inspired the Death Star. Except that the Death Star was probably significantly nerfed in comparison.
'Yo Chlorine Breathers. I hear you like suns, so I put suns in your suns, so you can sun while you sun.'
I cannot figure out this crossover as of yet without doing one or the other property injustice. (I love Skylark, and like Nanoha. I may be being too much of a purist. My Little Skylark: Slaughter is Friendship.)
Take Rei Ayanami from Sic Semper Morituri, and have her perform a variation on Rorschasch's 'Save Us' monologue. '...then they'll say "Can I have my money back?" and I'll say "No".'
AMG/Devil Survivor 1
Bel-dandy
Which is to say, increment the number of the battle royale/gotta-kill-em-all by one.
Remember the Raj Whitehall books? There is a new one coming out, and that gave me the following lovely.
We've secretly repla... err, supplemented Center with certain of Drake's other characters. There's the 'I don't want to share headspace' options like Adele, maybe Alois, maybe Ilna, the 'I really don't want to share headspace' options like Tovera, Joachim, and so forth, the 'might actually be appropriate' options like Garric, Carus, Aide, and then there is the 'everybody Drake has ever mentioned as difficult to share headspace with, or as someone he chooses not to write for his own peace of mind' option.
Pick the last and dump on your poor bastard of choice.
If Nasu is the Japanese Stirling, think about a Fate/Dies The Fire cross. I stopped following the books, but I've heard some bits that suggest that it would only take a little fiddling to get things to work.
ZnT/Skylark: Louise summons Richard is pretty simple. Mechanical educator->language->teching up->going home->spaceliner to elsewhere & peaceful thinky aliens tech up the planet Now, Louise summons Marc goes into more plottish places. Maybe she can learn to pinch hit for Babydoll?
Necroscope of Justice League Unlimited Blade Works
Suppose that Doctor Ishida from Nanoha A's has some relation with Doctor Ishida from Bleach.
EMIYA Archer/Captain Archer was done in Erfworld, with hints of Quantum Leap.
Unlimited Food Porn is the name of a John Biles Fate fic.
http://www.thekeep.org/~wombat/Stories/ ... ayHime.txt
Russ Van Loan: Note that for time periods in the late nineteenth century, the total defeat of the National Rifle Association might amount to former confederates gaining uncontested control over the nation. So, ranging from CSA to Draka. Is this what you consider a utopian golden age?
Ebony,
Regarding #184, I am certain that my statement is correct.
Firstly, the methods for the cases you cite would probably be of the dispersal sort, the kinds of methods law enforcement might prefer to use. These sort of methods rely on human psychology being present. The other set of methods would be destroying or overwhelming the rioters with greater force. This latter sort of process does work better using more people rather than less, and heavy infantry rather than light. (I imagine the Texas Rangers may have also used these some. However, I don't think the horse era Texas Ranger troops were all that big. As for more recent times, I suspect that the government of Texas would prefer using the first sort over the second sort.)
I may be reading too much between my own lines, but for the case I was thinking of, methods that work for one to a few people would be pretty worthless. The case was rioters /possessed/ by demons, with hints of drugs. I was remembering something I'd read about how folks on a PCP rampage can only be reliably quickly stopped by a wide enough wound channel passing through the heart. I was also thinking of the 'zombies' in Ringo's Queen of Wands. For scale I was assuming 'more than enough to tear them to shreds'. Excluding the 'All the Red Rangers' episodes, I think a group of Power Rangers tends to run half dozen to a dozen. Five hundred or so would be a major issue for that number, I think. I was assuming no easy exorcism. My expectation was minimal risk of no one dying if a standard power ranger group were sent up against the rioters.
Addressing the next ambiguity, unspecified Ranger can be read many different ways. For me, the default is the light infantry concept recorded in Roger's Rules for Rangers. This trades, IIRC, protection and combat endurance for mobility, while preserving killing power. This is kind of the opposite of what one would want to be able to stand up to rioters in battle, especially if one does not want to escalate to lethal force. I can't speak to how well Army units of whatever sort, manned by graduates of Ranger school or otherwise, handle riots. I do not know anything about the tables of equipment for modern infantry. Power Rangers are more handwavey and dependent on authorial fiat. Give them something like Fujino Asagami/Elfenlied, and they can subdue the rioters with a good chance of killing many. Don't, and they haven't the manpower and equipment to do anything other than die. Note that I mentioned 'five'. As for the Texas Rangers, I'm sure that they are more than capable of stopping smaller riots by overwhelming force. My understanding is that they tend towards smaller numbers, widely distributed. I expect that, for sizable riots, if Texas could only resort to force, that they would prefer to grab a concentrated unit that trains more regularly with the usual sort of counter riot equipment.
We tend to equip people sent in for that with heavier protective equipment, and other gear, for a reason. Light infantry tends to drop armor and such because they can kill enemies faster that way. However, with rioters, for some reason, killing them is often not the desired outcome. Rioters have all sorts of ways of injuring a person, should they get their hands on them. Heavy protective gear, which probably would be lethally dangerous facing competent infantry, gives a significant margin of additional safety versus rioters. That, and a good supply of less lethal weapons mean that one can not only survive going against rioters without a plan to kill them, but safely subdue them in a way that leaves them alive. Even if killing the rioters is on the table, having tanks and IFVs rather than none, and having more weapons like machine guns and grenade launchers rather than less probably makes it a safer and more effective process.
What I've seen of Tokusatsu has generally had small numbers of masked heroes defeating larger numbers of mooks. I do not think that it is very in genre for numbers of 'mooks' in excess of thirty to one to dogpile the heroes and tear them to shreds. If the heroes do have the powers to deal with those sort of numbers, playing by realistic rules, then there is a pretty decent chance of at least some lethal consequences. My understanding is that the Power Rangers usually use easy exorcism versus armies of possessed citizens. Excluding that, if the heroes don't die, a slaughter seems likely. There may be a Tokusatsu series where the heroes freely slaughter potentially curable people who are not their enemies. If so, I haven't seen it.
0µ -12 BlazBlu, Touhou, maybe some Eva.
4X/Fate Stay Night.
You have researched Magecraft I
You have activated the leylines on Homeworld
You have found Command Ruins on Homeworld, where there was nothing before.
You can now summon the legendary homeworld of a great historical Empire.
Super Robot Wars Alpha Protocol
Super Robot Wars and the Boxcar Children. Because in the context of the former, the latter sound like the product of some sort of deranged super soldier program.
Bring Eva forward some score years, replacing Gendo and Yui with the Shiba siblings from the Irregular at Magic Highschool (Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei) light novels. Authorial fiat whether NERV cognate has set up a tenth Magic Highschool to house pilots. I dunno how messed up the Shiba siblings turn out to be, and that would probably be the most significant variable as to how this would turn out.
Fate Jojo/Persona Stands, Persona, and Servants. Same or different?
Buffy Halloween fic. Crossover with Otokojuku. Firstly, it would be most wrong if the one who goes as Edajima Heihachi, Principal of Otokojuku is Snyder, especially if the personality sticks afterwords. Someone must go as Edajima Heihachi. Secondly, IIRC, Sunnydale has a middle school, a high-school, and a university. Middle school cheerleaders are Otokojuku First Years, Highschool cheer-leading team are Second Years, and the College team are Third Years.
Getter Emperor of Mankind WH40K/Getter Robo
Last I'd checked, there are something like a dozen classes, across all of the sources Typemoon has approved that are mentioned on the wiki.
Berserkers are supposed to have snapped in life or in legend. I cannot recall Demona doing more than making poor choices in cold blood, which she regretted, and also acts of anger which she didn't regret. I dunno, authorial fiat.
I've also heard that heroes need to be extremely agile to qualify for Lancer.
Others
Beast-The Beast, summoned in Fate/Prototype
Monster-Shiki Ryougi, Fate/Extra
Avenger-Broke the grail third war
Saver-sort of opposite of the avenger class
Ruler-this was used as a war administrator in an AU war where there are two teams of seven facing off.