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Fate/Silent Night
 
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That lack of faith, as you put it, cut both ways. Remember, when she was confronted with Lancelot, she recalled a time when she was heard one of the Knights of the Round table say, as she was leaving the room "A King will not understand someone else’s feelings". There was also the 'problem' of her ideal of kingship, that the King should save his subjects, and therefore stands alone. That is the fundamental disconnect that was the center of Saber's character arc in F/Z: she had forged herself into an inhuman ideal, and so her subjects were unable to relate to her, or she to her subjects. As Rider put it, she could save them, but she could not lead them.
From the beginning, the Nasu'verse's round table wasn't truly 'round', and Lancelot's betrayal broke it completely. It was said that the Table had no head, but because of the oaths the Knights had sworn to their King, the head would have been wherever the King sat.

That's why Ionian Hetairoi shocked her so much, the relationship that Rider has with his men is the same as she wanted with her knights, but her ideals made that impossible, though she kept trying anyway. Ionian Hetairoi said to Saber that Rider's ideals, that she had derided as being the way of a tyrant, were superior to her own, as they had allowed Rider to succeed where she had failed. The thing with her following her ideals to destruction is meant to parallel Shirou's decision to basically do the same.

But anyway, I'll stop now, to avoid becoming this guy.

On the subject of the snip, well, I hope Rider's Jesus impression works.
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Stand between the Silver Crystal and the Golden Sea.
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Fate/Silent Night - by Valles - 12-21-2012, 11:13 AM
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