Quote:Bluemage wrote:You'd also need to alter how reincarnation works in the Nasuverse, so it doesn't reset reincarnated souls back to factory specs before sending them back to Earth. (This is why Heroic souls are removed from the cycle in the first place: so they don't get wiped.) Of course, changing this would potentially remove the Throne of Heroes altogether, so, hmm...Quote:SkyeFire wrote:Yes, you should... specifically, my last post. Reincarnation of Heroic Spirits in Nasuverse? Nope.
Okay, I really should read the entire thread before posting replies....
The problem here is that we know five names (well, six counting DJ) that the Eternal Soldier has had; Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh, and Longinus. Gilgamesh is a confirmed Heroic Spirit, which means that whatever chain of incarnations that led to him stopped there. If non-linear reincarnation is possible, then Gil could *theoretically* have been however many people as the Eternal Soldier, been incarnated as King of Uruk, died, and ascended to the Throne... but none of those prior incarnations could've been Heroic Spirits.
Now, the requirements to become a Heroic Spirit are fairly indistinct, as is the number of said Spirits extant. It's quite possible that most of the Soldier's incarnations just weren't sufficiently badass or sufficiently famous to make the cut- I'd expect it- but Achilles? Roland? They're badass, and apparently famous enough to be named by the Soldier... so how could they not be Heroic Spirits? It wouldn't make sense.
...what we really need to do here is hash out how Nasu mechanics and In Nomine mechanics fit together; if you have IN!God stepping in every few times the Soldier dies, giving the Throne a copy of his current incarnation, and sending the real soul off to a new life, it neatly sidesteps pretty much all the problems...
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