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Considering building a new computer
 
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Did I mention how much I hate yuku?

Jinx999 Wrote:
CattyNebulart Wrote:Instead of a single 2TB drive I would grab 4 or so smaller but highly reliable drives and mount them in RAID 5 for my data (I have 4 of these; works very well and very quiet: http://www.newegg.com/Pro...spx?Item=N82E16822136320 Though some people complain about the noise so it might be my haf case keeping the noise down), and depending on your budget get an SSD harddrive for the OS. Then again I don't know if windows likes raid or if it's still not at that level.
Can you tell me the advantage of this? Because, pricewise, 2TB seems to be the sweet spot atm.

You can lose one drive without losing data. This has been an issue with 4/7 computers in my household (well those that I admin, which includes my parent's, etc) over the last 3 years. It is not a proper backup solution, but leaving people with a working computer when a drive fails is important, especially when you leave the computers in the hands of users that don't properly understand computers for weeks at a time. I would say that there is a good chance that the 2 TB drive will have issues within the next 2 years.

Jinx999 Wrote:If you must buy windows (Yuck) you should probably at least spring for professional, since it is the version without a crippled kernel (well as non-crippled as windows kernels get these days). Since you are buying sufficient ram to run windows I assume you'll be running a 64 bit version? And I would be leery about running windows 7 with just 4 GB of ram, of course my usual workload is a bit heftier than most people's. But if you are in the UK and need to pay the microsoft UK tax (1$ = 1 pound... sure) it might not be worth it. (if windows is ever worth it)

I'm a non expert with worries about compatibility issues and learning curve. Which means Bill gates has a manacle around my leg. Yes, 64 bit. Can you be more specific about the advantages (or, if you prefer the lessened disadvantages) of professional edition?

Most of the advantages of not having artificial limits into the kernel are relatively minor until you need them. The OS would support up to 192GB of memory as opposed to 16GB or less for home (all the way down to 2GB or so for starter), not a concern since you don't have that much memory but it's one of those things that is easy to explain. Similar increases exist for other memory related things, Process memory, etc. For some versions of windows such things as thread count etc are also affected. Some drivers don't work properly in non-professional editions, I havn't seen that with Win7 yet, but I have experienced it under XP. There are also more tools included to debork your system, and in older versions of windows similar artificial limits supposedly caused a fairly significant number of bugs including bluescreens.

The real seller I think would be that Professional also includes extra tools to run older (eg XP and earlier) programs that got borked in Windows Kernel 6.x (Vista and Win 7). If you spent 5000$ or so on an autocad licence that is a killer feature. If not it can be usefull for many older games.

As a personal note my parents have a win 7 Pro (built by me) and a Win 7 home (HP) and every two weeks I need to fix something on the Win7 home that leaves me going WTF why isn't that working. The difference is probably between chair and keyboard but...

Jinx999 Wrote:My personal dislike of the RADEON line is well documented (too many failures and horror stories) so I won't bitch about it here.

Never have had a problem with it, personally.

Bottle what you have and sell it, I use NVidia because it's merely atrocious and all driver problems can be worked around... which is a much much better experience than I have with any other card. Then again maybe I'm too demanding, I expect stuff to just work, instead of having to futz with drivers. I sometimes (often) want to mess with things but on a clean install it should work.

Jinx999 Wrote:How much of an advantage is an SSD?

It depends... and I honestly have no clue with Win7. For me (using Linux) it has done wonders in performance, 1/3 of my boot time is the bios posting and loading grub, and general system response under heavy I/O has been wonderful due to RAID for the big data and SSD for the critical data. Then again my setup has been tweaked in ways I wouldn't even try with windows (well have tried and failed miserably to be more precise, User and system data should be seperate #%&#%&^$#).

SSD's vary widely in performance and price and changes frequently.

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