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4th of July Challenge
 
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ordnance11 Wrote:
Quote:Dartz wrote:Less than 30.... quite a bit less.

I would argue however, that stripping citizenship from someone based on the results of a test is rife for abuse. Louisiana Voter Literacy tests, anyone? It's already easy enough to disenfranchise people as it is....
The premise is that you were not one to begin with at birth and must earn it. Which puts you on an even footing with the descendants of the plymouth rock brethren if they have to do it also.

I would agree that the possibility for abuseĀ  on the test is great. That's why I think Heinlein's idea of citizenship is a good one. You get citizens, who are eligible to vote and permanent residents, who cannot vote. Everyone has equal protection under the law, except for the right to vote. To earn the right to be a citizen, you need to a served a number of years in full time civilian community or military service, starting at the age of majority. Successful completion of your service would make you a citizen. Only a citizen can vote. And only a citizen can run for public office.

The main reason I think it is a good idea is because I already had gone through this route, so I will admit bias on this idea.
The problem with Heinlein's concept... acknowledged in the book AFAIK... is finding enough stuff for everyone who wants to be a citizen to do. And, for that matter, choosing who gets to do what. By random lotto? By merit? Either way is going to create some form of dissafected subclass who want rights but can't get them for whatever reason.

America is already disturbingly military-happy in many ways.
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4th of July Challenge - by ordnance11 - 07-04-2013, 08:07 PM
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