All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part IX

[NDKilla]

I feel the need to point out that they aren't dictating policy. We've talked about NPA policies before and the extent to which one exists will be up to the community as usual, not Amanda. Me and Reception (and others) have been talking about such a policy long before Amanda proposed one.

The timing of presenting it is very bad, then. As is the content - it looks like everything that LP/Amanda wants is in there.

It probably is bad timing, but as with a lot of documentation and other things, nobody has bothered to draft a policy. For probably understandable reasons, Amanda has the motivation to do such things.

Personally I think it should be up to Stewards or Meta admins to actually remove attacks, but Amanda and anyone else should feel free to point out attacks to local and global users with the proper authority.

Which is what we have now, correct?

More or less yes. Stewards are (to an extent) responsible for content everywhere. Meta admins are responsible for Meta content. Until an approved policy says otherwise, it should probably be up to them. However I do think that personal attacks should be disallowed, but I don't want the removal of "personal attacks" to be a form of personal attack.

Also, John did not cave into demands and threats of spam. Like him and most of the staff had said since the user initially made the ban, they were banned by the community and could appeal to the community. John merely created a proposal that got decent support, and the RfC was closed by Southparkfan.

Amanda/LP was blocked/banned/whatever and the abuse started. John writes a proposal that lets Amanda/LP post again and the abuse disappears. What conclusion are we supposed to draw?

John and Amanda (and to an extent, me) discussed this for a while before the proposal was made. Personally I thought it was best. Community wise, I think Amanda should be allowed to have her own wiki with her own configuration, etc, etc, but I am a disturbed by the actions on Phabricator especially since I can't see Amanda's removed comments.

http://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/1378/files

"Amanda" wants steward/checkuser rights on "her" own wiki.

Hmm.

In what way does this give them checkuser rights on their wikis?

The checkuser permissions were added to the local steward group so that the local checkuser group could be removed.

Amanda still can't add themselves to the local steward group, or otherwise attain checkuser permissions.

Setting checkuser as an implicit group was an attempted (i don't know if it worked actually) fix to hide the checkuser group from the list of groups when it had all of it's permissions removed.