All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part IX

[robkelk]

I feel the need to point out that they aren't dictating policy. We've talked about NPA policies before and the extent to which one exists will be up to the community as usual, not Amanda. Me and Reception (and others) have been talking about such a policy long before Amanda proposed one.

The timing of presenting it is very bad, then. As is the content - it looks like everything that LP/Amanda wants is in there.

It probably is bad timing, but as with a lot of documentation and other things, nobody has bothered to draft a policy. For probably understandable reasons, Amanda has the motivation to do such things.

I trust that Miraheze staff and stewards won't object to an alternate proposal from somebody other than LP/Amanda, then.

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Also, John did not cave into demands and threats of spam. Like him and most of the staff had said since the user initially made the ban, they were banned by the community and could appeal to the community. John merely created a proposal that got decent support, and the RfC was closed by Southparkfan.

Amanda/LP was blocked/banned/whatever and the abuse started. John writes a proposal that lets Amanda/LP post again and the abuse disappears. What conclusion are we supposed to draw?

John and Amanda (and to an extent, me) discussed this for a while before the proposal was made. Personally I thought it was best. Community wise, I think Amanda should be allowed to have her own wiki with her own configuration, etc, etc, but I am a disturbed by the actions on Phabricator especially since I can't see Amanda's removed comments.
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Discussion beforehand? Not only caving in, but apparent collusion to overturn a decision made by community consensus.
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Rob Kelk
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them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

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