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Chapter Two is up
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And now a reply to everything else, more or less...

(06-02-2018, 02:20 AM)Labster Wrote: Well done, well done!  Not what I was expecting for Usagi's temper tantrum, but definitely in character for her.  And, wow, we usually don't get a plot swerve as early as Chapter Two.  If this holds up, a certain two people may yet get to eat choco parfait together.

Thanks.  If you think that was a swerve, wait until you see the end of Chapter three.

And as for those certain two people?  I have Plans.  Parfait is the least of them.

(06-02-2018, 02:20 AM)Labster Wrote: > Yes, it's in Scotland, and looks like a ruined castle to people who aren't supposed to be there. <grin>
I would have thought Mahora Academy would be the local branch.

If I had a Negima Step, it probably would have been.  <grin>

(06-02-2018, 02:44 AM)Bad Moon Wrote: Yikes!  Would never thought I'd see ol Meatball Head react like that.  I can see why you thought that would garner a reaction, Bob.

It was a bit of a surprise to me, too.  I knew that after this fight she would be far less impressed with him -- but this came out of left field for me as well as you, and even as I was writing it I had no idea what was going to happen next.  I suppose it should come as no surprise that my months-long block was just before this bit, hung on the point when Doug's motorcycle hit Jadeite.

(06-02-2018, 06:25 AM)DHBirr Wrote: While I seriously doubt Bob had this pun in mind, it just now hit me that "Elmer Fudd" is training — errrr, twaining — a "Bunny."  Or should that be a "wascally Usagi"?  
"Ehhhh ... what's up, Doug-sensei?"

Heh.  I never even considered that.  Perhaps I'm too close to the subject matter.  (I do have a moment like that queued up in the plot for DW13, though.)

(06-02-2018, 08:45 AM)classicdrogn Wrote: Oh dear, Jadeite, you seem to have pulled the pin on the Doug Grenade. When you do that, the Doug Grenade is not your friend. Though him commenting on other people's arrogance in combat when he very much comes across as being pretty sure he's the baddest mofo in the valley most of the time is kind of a laugh on its own, to be fair to Doug he usually is if he decides to pull out the stops faster than his opponents can knock him down. I mean, he's on the premier world-wide superhero team in his homeline for a reason, and it ain't because he can cook a mean hasenpfeffer.

Doug and Jadeite will have a couple more face-to-face conflicts, and eventually Laughing Boy will realize he's bitten off more than he can chew.  He's already suspecting it as of that last scene, but he's got too much ego and Evil Overlord to admit it yet.

(06-02-2018, 08:45 AM)classicdrogn Wrote: Since you asked specifically about Usagi's freak-out, her attacking physically would have been OOC in the original material, but with a few weeks of protagonist-speed martial arts training under her belt and the increased confidence from that as well as generally improving her academics it's plausible here, the more so as she only keeps at it for a short time before flip-flopping between that and the frightened teen girl that would have been her default otherwise - she's not that different so soon, after all. 

That, fortunately, does seem to be the consensus, that I did give her enough development that this was not completely out of hyperspace.  As it was, thought, there were still very last minute edits -- oddly enough to Tuxboy's part of the mess -- to make it all work right.

(06-02-2018, 08:45 AM)classicdrogn Wrote: While it could as easily just be the morale boost from his pep talks, it's persistent fanon if not canon-I'm-not-aware-of that Tux-boy actually activates a recovery and/or buff of some sort when he shows up,

To be honest I've never seen anything like that in any official source.  It's certainly not the case here.  What's going on is that the bit of Endymion's personality that's deep inside Mamoru's mind is stuck like a ghost in the last few moments of his life, generating this "protect the princess" compulsion (and tapping into just barely enough magic to let him home in on her).  Of course, when he gets there, she's in the middle of a fight and he has nothing in the way of a weapon, so all he can do is cheerlead her in her moments of weakness.  However, DW!Usagi is getting much more capable very quickly, and doesn't need some weirdo in a top hat sticking his nose into a fight to tell her what she already knows.

(06-02-2018, 08:45 AM)classicdrogn Wrote: and even if not the case now with the way he felt and reacted to I'm Alive combined with his thoughts about being useless just before, he might well develop something like that on his own.

Interestingly, in the manga he actually gets what looks like a pretty effective area attack called "Tuxedo La Smoking Bomber" -- which is basically a hailstorm of +5 holy penetrating roses emitted from the inside of his jacket, or something like that.  He just might find himself working up to that here.

(06-02-2018, 08:45 AM)classicdrogn Wrote: (Of course, Doug may well arrange some more organized magic study for him as well, in a later chapter or even by the end of this one, but I'm writing this as I go along to try to avoid forgetting things)

That really depends on how his story arc goes; I have surprisingly little explicitly planned for him outside of something at the end of chapter 3, a bit at the start of chapter 4, and his involvement in the action of the last chapter or chapter-and-a-half.

Oh, and eventually a thaw in his relationship with Usagi that leads to something resembling the canon romance.  

(06-02-2018, 08:45 AM)classicdrogn Wrote: Beryl actually cares about her troops? How can this be? Big Grin A more nuanced portrayal of the Dark Kingdom is rare in the extreme, good on ya'.

Yeah, don't know how that happened.  In my notes she was supposed to go all Evil Overlord on Jadeite but finally give him a chance to get back in her good graces.  Instead she turns around and is being, like, a good and caring leader, even if it's for selfish reasons.  (And is that a bit of her stalker-crush on Endymion displaced a bit onto Jadeite?  Could be...)

(06-02-2018, 03:16 PM)Labster Wrote: Honestly, I only even recognized it as "sailor" because of decades of exposure to the English-saturated versions of Japanese that seemed to be the norm everywhere but my homeworld. And boy, won't that give me trouble if I'm deployed to Beta Team again after I get home!
One of my favorite lines in Zipang is the IJN sailors asking why everyone on the Mirai was speaking Japanese with an English accent.

It's obviously not come up yet, but Minako will have a very British accent when she speaks English, as well as a few British idioms.  I think she's deliberately chosen to do so, because she certainly wasn't there long enough to acquire it all by osmosis, but regardless it'll make it fun to write her.

(06-02-2018, 03:16 PM)Labster Wrote: Luna looked at her tea, then at me. "I think I'm going to need something a lot stronger to drink."
Time to pull out the heavy cream.

Snerk.

(06-02-2018, 03:16 PM)Labster Wrote: I'm worried that if Luna gets her memory back, it will come along with PTSD.  Doug should realize this, given what he revealed on the surface of the Moon.  I always wondered if it was a blessing that Luna's memory had been swiss-cheesed.

That might well be the answer to why it was deliberately done to her in Crystal -- but whether or not she has PTSD I think depends on how close she was to the fighting.  The usual depiction in the various versions seems to indicate she and Artemis were cloistered in the palace with Serenity, and not anywhere near the front lines, at least not until the last minutes, when the front lines came to them.  (I also have yet to figure out why Serenity was cloistered in her palace when she was as powerful a sorceress as she was.  What was she doing that was more important than personally blowing away battalions of youma?)

(06-02-2018, 03:16 PM)Labster Wrote: One thing I like about your writing is that you always assume that investigative journalists exist in a modern setting.  This seems to be missing in a lot of Japanese works -- I'm wondering if there's a cultural assumption that the media can be silenced easily by the powers that be, and the extent to which that's true in Japan.  However, foreign press cannot be silenced so easily.

Yoshi's been a part of the plot for, oh, god, more than ten years now?  I wrote the scene where he first meets Doug so long ago that I don't remember exactly when I wrote it.  But he only became an investigative journalist to give him a reason to be following the Senshi (and eventually V before them) -- his initial role in the plot was to be a way to get the Senshi out of shadowy urban legend status and into "real people in the news", and his next role was to be an embedded reporter when they went to the Dark Kingdom.  Everything else about him grew out of those two things.

(06-02-2018, 03:16 PM)Labster Wrote:
DHBirr didn\t write Wrote:Braga is surprisingly competent as well, actually, and Beryl actually cares about her troops? How can this be? Big Grin  A more nuanced portrayal of the Dark Kingdom is rare in the extreme, good on ya'.
In the manga, a large proportion of their opponents are intelligent, named baddies. Imagine, being kept alive millennia in thrall to a malign extraterrestrial, trapped in a cave deep beneath the ice of Hyperborea, slowly going mad from the evil energy afflicting you and all of your companions. There's a lot of room to add nuance to Sailor Moon. Nice touch in this story, that Beryl only cares about Jadeite insofar as he has value to herself.

Thanks, I'm glad you caught that.  

(06-02-2018, 04:10 PM)DeputyJones Wrote: Ya know, I kind of hope he goes back to the old palace, with or without the Senshi. Give the soldiers, nobles, and subjects there their long overdue burials/pyres somehow. Maybe shortly before the Battle of D-Point.

Well, now that he's actually been there, he can teleport there and not have to use his one out-of-atmosphere flight song to get there and back.  So it's entirely possible.  And as you've seen in DW8, he has at least one song which creates a teleport gate.

And there's a bit in canon where the Senshi go to the moon and interact with a recording of the Queen (which she made when in between everything else going on in those last fifteen to thirty minutes?); I will be doing a version of that if unexpected plot developments don't obviate it.

(06-02-2018, 05:23 PM)JFerio Wrote: Y'know, I can't help but think, even if the Dark Kingdom tries to step this up a notch or five now thinking that there are still War Wizards, how much out of their league they might be anyway unless they do an all out "all in" strike right now. If only because Doug will step up his game by at least that (and probably further!) level of intensity in response.

Some of my prereaders here in the forums will know why I'm chuckling to myself as I read this...

(06-02-2018, 07:52 PM)Dartz Wrote: Thanks for writting this.

You're welcome!
-- Bob

I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh, Clark Kent, Mary Sue, DJ Croft, Skysaber.  I have been 
called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the sun grows dim and cold....
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Chapter Two is up - by Bob Schroeck - 06-01-2018, 06:49 PM
RE: Chapter Two is up - by robkelk - 06-01-2018, 07:23 PM
RE: Chapter Two is up - by Mamorien - 06-01-2018, 08:14 PM
RE: Chapter Two is up - by Bob Schroeck - 06-01-2018, 08:43 PM
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RE: Chapter Two is up - by Bob Schroeck - 06-05-2018, 09:01 PM
RE: Chapter Two is up - by Bad Moon - 06-02-2018, 02:44 AM
RE: Chapter Two is up - by DHBirr - 06-02-2018, 06:25 AM
RE: Chapter Two is up - by classicdrogn - 06-02-2018, 08:45 AM
RE: Chapter Two is up - by Labster - 06-02-2018, 03:16 PM
RE: Chapter Two is up - by DHBirr - 06-02-2018, 06:44 PM
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