RE: Treason Season??
05-30-2019, 04:49 PM (This post was last modified: 05-30-2019, 04:49 PM by hazard.)
05-30-2019, 04:49 PM (This post was last modified: 05-30-2019, 04:49 PM by hazard.)
Except that the Republicans for all those reasons have every reason to ignore all the evidence and vote to not impeach the president once the trial concludes. Deliberately voting counter to the evidence is itself an act of sabotage.
Personally? I think that the best time for the Democrats to impeach is shortly after the Republican primaries conclude. Either the party doesn't choose Trump, in which case the Republicans have to decide whether they stick with that decision and impeach or ignore it and tear at their party's unity, or the party does choose Trump who then gets an avalanche of evidence shoved over him in the trial along with much of his administration and his political supporters. I'm not sure Pence will be able to avoid getting tarred with the same brush either, nor the rest of the party due to how obstructionist they themselves have been.
Will it get his base going? Sure. But it'll also get the rest of the population going, while political engagement among the sections of the population that traditionally are both low engagement and leaning Democrat has already seen a historic rise in the USA (and not just the USA either). The Republican party may've thoroughly locked down the older white/male section of USA demographics, they're not seeing a large supply of new blood streaming into the party, and their rhetoric and tactics are repulsive to voters in the age bracket that usually decides what way a voter is likely to go for the rest of their lives.
While a rise in violence from right wing terrorists is likely following an impeachment (or for that matter any event that ousts Donald Trump, even the 2020 election) that is not an improvement for the Republican Party. The USA is tired of the empty platitudes that follow such things, and I can see rumblings in USA society that indicate a shift is very likely on many of the issues the Republican party has avidly advocated, away from the Republican stance.
Of course, one option that is available to the Democrats is making an example of Lindsey Graham, whom I will note and remind you tried to tamper with a witness and advised another to not heed a subpoena from Congress while in Congress and on live television. That sounds like attempted obstruction of justice to me...
Personally? I think that the best time for the Democrats to impeach is shortly after the Republican primaries conclude. Either the party doesn't choose Trump, in which case the Republicans have to decide whether they stick with that decision and impeach or ignore it and tear at their party's unity, or the party does choose Trump who then gets an avalanche of evidence shoved over him in the trial along with much of his administration and his political supporters. I'm not sure Pence will be able to avoid getting tarred with the same brush either, nor the rest of the party due to how obstructionist they themselves have been.
Will it get his base going? Sure. But it'll also get the rest of the population going, while political engagement among the sections of the population that traditionally are both low engagement and leaning Democrat has already seen a historic rise in the USA (and not just the USA either). The Republican party may've thoroughly locked down the older white/male section of USA demographics, they're not seeing a large supply of new blood streaming into the party, and their rhetoric and tactics are repulsive to voters in the age bracket that usually decides what way a voter is likely to go for the rest of their lives.
While a rise in violence from right wing terrorists is likely following an impeachment (or for that matter any event that ousts Donald Trump, even the 2020 election) that is not an improvement for the Republican Party. The USA is tired of the empty platitudes that follow such things, and I can see rumblings in USA society that indicate a shift is very likely on many of the issues the Republican party has avidly advocated, away from the Republican stance.
Of course, one option that is available to the Democrats is making an example of Lindsey Graham, whom I will note and remind you tried to tamper with a witness and advised another to not heed a subpoena from Congress while in Congress and on live television. That sounds like attempted obstruction of justice to me...