(10-16-2019, 02:35 AM)Labster Wrote: I can be convinced to change my vote, but you're going to have to convince me on the basis of policy, not just that it's attracting a bad crowd. In my point of view it's still an objective trope. To reach example sectionectemy bar, you need to convince me that it's either not a trope, or not an objective trope. Or of something weirder like it's continued presence would violate one of ATT:CODE. There are all sorts of steps we could take short of deletion, like a rename or restricting edits to mod/admins.
A rename would do nothing but give it a different name and might throw off the wonks for awhile, but once they figure out the new name rules, they'll be right back to their nonsense.
Locking edits to admins only means full-time maintenance of something we don't have to usually do because we can usually trust people to keep their spaghetti in their pockets, and the wonks aren't above spamming crap and creating their own pages to get around locks.
I agree things should be objective, but this is a classic case of why we can't have nice things because too many wonks want to ruin it, and we would be better served without the hassle.