RE: Irish oddsmaker gives 33% chance Trump will be impeached
12-21-2019, 04:35 PM (This post was last modified: 12-21-2019, 04:55 PM by Dartz.)
12-21-2019, 04:35 PM (This post was last modified: 12-21-2019, 04:55 PM by Dartz.)
Failure of the multiparty system is bollocks. We're trucking along fine - so is most of Europe that doesn't use a First Past the Post system. We've got two major parties and a smattering of smaller ones such that there's rarely a single-party majority in government. There're always other interests represented, either in coalition or as a quid-pro-quo. Currently, we're running a minority government - and have been for the majority of the brexit debacle.
We did it just fine. It's called not being a fucking moron and running the country
As much as I dislike it for 'other' aspects of its policy, the current government and all parties in the Dail have been able to recognise that the actions of our nearest neighbour represent a crisis to the state and that bickering and instability during the negotiations would be the worst thing at the moment. They've held their noses and worked on it until the crisis has ended. It's not uncoincidental that the confidence and supply is finally starting to break up and the cracks show now that the crisis has effectively passed.
If the system repeatedly locks up and stops checking itself - and starts actively fighting itself - to the detriment of the people - then the system has clearly failed. The last 4 years of Brexit was a failure cause by the Common's inability to function in a cooperative manner. Worse - if you have a system where 60+% of the people can vote against a candidate - and that candidate still win with a 'majority', then you're going to end up with a case where otherwise deeply unpopular individuals will 'win' because people who hate them can't agree on anything else beyond the fact that they hate this one person.
FPTP is deeply fucking broken for this reason. It's an almost childsih way of running an election. It makes sense to children - but when you explain why it doesn't, even children understand it. I was ten years old when a schoolteacher explained to me how shit the British system is, and how much better ours is. And it's true.
There is far less screaming about election shenanigans here because it is so fucking hard to gerrymander or suppress the system. More than that - there's far less screaming about tight referendums either, along with a willingness to re-ask questions as society's opinion on them changes with the times. We have voter identification - but it's almost impossible to not have one of the required forms of ID. You may only vote in one polling station, and your name is checked off a list when you get your franked ballot paper.
We've had referendums tighter than the Brexit result without the resulting clusterfuck of squeling. The only time we ever had an issue was with the recent one where a shitton of money from a certain political wing of a certain federal republic was poured into one side of a campaign -including flying ringers in illegaly to campaign., Their local cronies complained about the sort of voter issues that happen in the states and they were told where to fucking go.
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Anyway, you say 'Documents that suddenly appearr' . I hear 'Documents that challenge my ideas'. We're in a post-truth era maybe, but that line of reasoning is dangerously close to doublethink.
We did it just fine. It's called not being a fucking moron and running the country
As much as I dislike it for 'other' aspects of its policy, the current government and all parties in the Dail have been able to recognise that the actions of our nearest neighbour represent a crisis to the state and that bickering and instability during the negotiations would be the worst thing at the moment. They've held their noses and worked on it until the crisis has ended. It's not uncoincidental that the confidence and supply is finally starting to break up and the cracks show now that the crisis has effectively passed.
If the system repeatedly locks up and stops checking itself - and starts actively fighting itself - to the detriment of the people - then the system has clearly failed. The last 4 years of Brexit was a failure cause by the Common's inability to function in a cooperative manner. Worse - if you have a system where 60+% of the people can vote against a candidate - and that candidate still win with a 'majority', then you're going to end up with a case where otherwise deeply unpopular individuals will 'win' because people who hate them can't agree on anything else beyond the fact that they hate this one person.
FPTP is deeply fucking broken for this reason. It's an almost childsih way of running an election. It makes sense to children - but when you explain why it doesn't, even children understand it. I was ten years old when a schoolteacher explained to me how shit the British system is, and how much better ours is. And it's true.
There is far less screaming about election shenanigans here because it is so fucking hard to gerrymander or suppress the system. More than that - there's far less screaming about tight referendums either, along with a willingness to re-ask questions as society's opinion on them changes with the times. We have voter identification - but it's almost impossible to not have one of the required forms of ID. You may only vote in one polling station, and your name is checked off a list when you get your franked ballot paper.
We've had referendums tighter than the Brexit result without the resulting clusterfuck of squeling. The only time we ever had an issue was with the recent one where a shitton of money from a certain political wing of a certain federal republic was poured into one side of a campaign -including flying ringers in illegaly to campaign., Their local cronies complained about the sort of voter issues that happen in the states and they were told where to fucking go.
----
Anyway, you say 'Documents that suddenly appearr' . I hear 'Documents that challenge my ideas'. We're in a post-truth era maybe, but that line of reasoning is dangerously close to doublethink.
Oh sweet meteor of death
Fall upon us.
Deliver us in fire
To Peace everlasting.
Fall upon us.
Deliver us in fire
To Peace everlasting.