Still think climate change is a hoax?

[robkelk]

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when people overseas can't buy stuff you make because you can't make or ship it, when you are pouring dairy products down the drain and euthanizing livestock because we can't put the people to work in the processing plants,

Which is not what is happening in the real world. Agricultural products are going to waste because people aren't buying them, not because nobody's available to process them.

There are plenty of well-run processing plants that can and do take what's made available to them while still treating their employees with respect.

when the ANNUAL FUCKING DEBT TRIPLES IN ONE YEAR just to keep various businesses afloat, (not to mention the rampant inflation that is likely to follow) thats a damn problem.

Letting your debt get so far out of hand during the good times, despite how many warnings the rest of the world gave you about it, is your own problem. If you had managed your finances better, you wouldn't be in this mess now.

As for the aid, every other country in the world is giving the money to people, not to corporations. But history shows that that's what happens when you elect a GOP government: corporations are allowed to belly up to the trough while individuals suffer.

You folks really need to get rid of the rot in the GOP - and, considering how many decades that rot's been there, the only way to do that is to dismantle the entire party (and the Dems, too) and start over.

it isn't a matter of globalism Rob, we're stuck, currently, with a global economy which CANNOT be changed in six fucking months, let alone the three we've had since this started in earnest.

What do you mean, "six months"? Trump's been working on it for three years, now.

You talk about safety nets, and i see the problem those safety nets create, the "refractory" housing in france, the section 8 housing in the US, basically places that are almost NO GO zones for police unless they are in damn riot gear because the sub-culture of the areas have taught them to hate the police but depend on the government for handouts. The creation of entitlements that have no end, and no impetus to get people off of them because it is easier for them to live on something that barely keeps them comfortable than take the chance of finding and then losing a job, or because they just don't want to FUCKING WORK.

If that's really what you see, then either you're looking in the wrong place or you're blind.

Social safety nets exist to prevent everything that you listed. And all the evidence out of Alberta - the most conservative province in Canada - shows that they do prevent everything that you listed when they're put into place while saving money for the government in the process.