(07-12-2021, 07:18 PM)nemonowan Wrote:(07-12-2021, 02:46 PM)GethN7 Wrote: Rob, if Biden won honestly, then so be it, I'm an adult, he would have won fairly, end of story. I just want this question put to bed for good because the US has enough issues to deal with. If Trump lost but HE was the one revealed to have attempted to cheat or those on his behalf did, then shame on them. I mostly want to see the man who won be cleared of this crap, assuming he can be beyond any doubt, which is more an issue of that being a higher priority for me than naked bias.
Geth, seen from outside the States, the issue is that the question CANNOT be put to rest, because there is
NO evidence that will be accepted by Trump and the Republican leaders that answer to him.
The stolen election claim has become the biggest issue for their campaigns and their fundraising, and is an article of faith for their hardcore supporters. No Republican elected official will dare deny it because they would be primaried and defeated by some other candidate that will pander to them.
It's like the old proverb that you cannot make somebody understand something when their job depends on not understanding it.
I concede the point. Me personally, if Biden is the President, I'll shut up and deal with it, but much like it took two years after Rutherford Hayes controversial election to put to rest answers of who cheated (and most of the evidence implicated the Samuel Tilden side, though Tilden's direct involvement was never proven), I guess I just want all the legal questions put to bed for good. The conspiracy theorists won't stop of course, but I want both sides to put this to bed legally speaking because we have enough problems in the US. I have friends in the "Biden is my president" and "Trump should be president" camps, and I don't care for either side trying to demand my allegiance, whoever got the job, so long as they have it honestly, that's fine by me.